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I recommend Defederating from Rammy.site
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What about the innocent users on the instance? I think there should be a more measured approach to defederation, looking at the bigger picture and what it actually achieves.
Defederating won’t stop them posting it just means you won’t see it. They’ll then be even more effective at spreading their message as they claim they are being silenced.
Many people are proposing a council that any instance would have to be a member of. If they break the rules (eg not moderating the instance) then the council has the power to migrate innocent users.
What about the innocent users on this instance? I chose this instance because its a home for piracy and anarchism. The explictly anti-hate code of conduct is why I'm here. But what good is the DBZer0 code if exploding heads fash can jump to a neglected instance and polute our timelines with all their garbage?
federation is a mechanism for cultivation; helping the good stuff grow and pruning the weeds
I've raised this with the other admins to discuss our federation status with that instance. Having had a look around, I'll be advocating for defederation. If the instance admin turns things around then we can always refederate later on. Personally, I don't want to see alt-right posts, it's depressing and counterproductive to engage with them. Let them scream into the wind where nobody can hear them.
Updated: We are now defederated with that instance. I'll be happy to revisit the decision if their admin cleans it up.
The flaw in that argument is that not everyone on the instance is a weed. Especially in the case where a new users join. So your not helping the good stuff grow. You are cutting it back along with the weeds.
Also, did you mean to write that you chose your instance because it’s a home for piracy and anarchism? If so, what you going to do when it gets defederated?
They're not being taken out and shot, they're being defederated.
If there's poor little innocent users on there, they can either jump ship to a server that isn't spewing far-right propaganda in the search of someone damaged enough to swallow it or they can wrestle their beloved server back from fascists and ask to be refederated.
The amount of people advocating for the worst people the internet has to offer is surreal. If they're not mask-on, they're an abusive partners dream.
Yeah I did. You should check the topic of discussion before joining discussion.
I would think it follows that if I joined an instance supportive of a certain stance, and some other instance defederates because of that stance, maybe I didn't agree much with that other instance anyway. It takes a certain kind of person to get upset when they lose the ability to push their views onto others regardless of consent, and I don't want to be that kind of person