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[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That 2003 PC probably does not receive firmware updates from the manufacturer, and hasn't for over a decade.

It might still function, but that doesn't mean it is still supported. At this point, many operating systems won't even install due to the x86-64bit requirements.

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

None of that matters. No company can say what your hardware can do. Apple's policies are disgustingly anti-user.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nothing else matters except privacy and security for me. Apple provides that in their phones.

PCs from 2003 are full of vulnerabilities, use legacy instruction sets, lack power efficiency, lack manufacture support, do not support UEFI, have no IOMMU hardware isolation, have no modern VM capabilities, probably have no TPM, etc etc etc.

If Apple is anti-user, then we need to also start blaming every single hardware manufacturer that doesnt support their products anymore. Manufacturers of phones, motherboards, TVs, SSDs, displays, mice, keyboards, printers, network equipment, etc etc etc.

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nobody is forcing you to use an old PC. Others exist, the poor, who need affordable computers that last.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Ok then those that can't afford Apple can shop other brands. They just won't get the Apple support, and will have to rely on community efforts to keep their machines running.

What exactly do you want Apple to do here?

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Provide an open boot loader on all devices they sell at the minimum (I believe that should be law).

Basic documentation helping a community OS would be nice.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Is there an example of an open bootloader you would want apple to model?

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apple was an early adopter of EFI and is a member of the UEFI Forum. They should use modern UEFI.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I can't think of ANY phone that uses UEFI. Most phones are using ARM processors, and use a different method of booting vs x86 devices.

Which ARM UEFI bootloader do you want iPhone to use?

[-] AProfessional@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, the whole subject is about how terrible phones are. Apple can write UEFI firmware but they like control.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Correct. Its locked down so that it cant be tampered with. Friends, family, thieves, police, three letter government agencies, and even Apple are unable to tamper with it once the user has set up the phone. It is designed to protect your data from anyone else but yourself.

You want to take away that feature from me because you want to load another OS on it? Just go buy a Pixel phone and flash GrapheneOS on it.

There are sooooo many devices out there that do not have any way to unlock bootloaders. Why are you focusing so much on Apple and their secure bootloader?

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