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“Donald Trump may be crazy, but he’s not stupid. When he claims that ‘nobody’ showed up at a 10,000 person Harris-Walz rally in Michigan that was live-streamed and widely covered by the media, that it was all AI, and that Democrats cheat all of the time, there is a method to his madness,” Sanders said in a statement.

“Clearly, and dangerously, what Trump is doing is laying the groundwork for rejecting the election results if he loses,” he added. “If you can convince your supporters that thousands of people who attended a televised rally do not exist, it will not be hard to convince them that the election returns in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and elsewhere are ‘fake’ and ‘fraudulent.’”

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“This is what destroying faith in institutions is about. This is what undermining democracy is about. This is what fascism is about,” he said of Trump’s campaign falsehoods. “This is why we must do everything we can to see that Trump is defeated.”

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[-] Josey_Wales@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

This is why turnout matters. If enough people vote against Trump the mandate will restore faith in the election results. Harris/Waltz need to win with a clear mandate. If not we will still be dealing with MAGA going forward.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

If enough people vote against Trump

"We need to score 3 points for every 1 they make in order to win" is a rickety formula for success. It assumes you can run up the score every season and doesn't question what happens when you lose.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We are ~11 weeks from Election Day. What do you propose we do?

This is what we have in front of us. We can’t get upset about what could be or would’ve been. It’s mid-august 2024, time’s up.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I don't actually know. But what I do know is that the GOP is recruiting 100,000 election "observers" (read: saboteurs) and we're gonna need way more tactics beyond just turnout to counter that!

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I completely agree but also remember that they have no power and have to keep a certain distance. They do anything funny don’t even engage them. Report them immediately. Especially if they are wearing any Trump merch. Easy to accuse them of campaigning too close to a polling location.

They did the same shit in 2020 and 2022. Gotta be vigilant.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Its what we got. Win here and then throw out FPTP immediately. We can't change how voting works right this instance, Varuca.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

Win here and then throw out FPTP immediately.

Uh huh

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