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Trump keeps watching shooting clip: ‘May legit have PTSD’
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I am not a Trump supporter or sympathizer. In fact, I hate that I have to qualify this at all, but nuance is dead on the internet.
You are speaking with a voice of logic. Trump should not have been shot at, nor should he have been killed. He was targeted unlawfully.
No person should die at the hands of another. We can't judge each other effectively or objectively.
I may wish for trauma, pain, or more on someone, but I don't earnestly believe anybody deserves it nor should we be the arbiters of death. Especially if it's because of ideological differences.
Trump would commonly pull a scam with his property development business where the company would hire a bunch of local, small and medium, businesses in order to do most of the work. Then, in the days leading to the project being finished, would put forth a large amount of false complaints of things they did wrong. He would then refuse to pay, and sue. He would hold them up in court, and bankrupt them, if they didn't just drop it, and walk away, which would often bankrupt them anyway. He did this for decades. He destroyed hundreds, if not thousands, of small businesses this way. That is to say, he destroyed those people's lives. He destroyed their families. There is a long list of contractors who killed themselves in the fall-out, left in the wake of his fraudulent business practices.
A man once slipped and fell in some event Trump was having. The guy's head split open, and he was dying. Trump says he was mad that the blood was ruining his beautiful floor. He is a rapist, a pedophile, a con man. He definitely has bought any violence coming to him. Fuck him.
Yes, fuck him.
But what are you advocating for? We all know he's trash. So is our justice system. Are you angry with him? Or are you angry that our justice system is rigged in a way that lets him get away with this shit behavior repeatedly?
We would not know his deplorable name if it wasn't for the him getting away with shitty behavior and flaunting that he didn't get punished. He literally got convicted before our own eyes for something his own lawyer went to prison for, but remains largely unaffected.
THAT makes me angry and feel cheated. Do I hate him? Yes. Do I wish terrible things on him? Absolutely. Should I be his judge? Probably not.
I am advocating for not giving a shit when someone murders him. Someone should have done that a long time ago. The kid who tried was 20. He has time to be reformed. Time for people to figure out what is wrong, and give him therapy, make him work on himself. And it would all be at a net gain for humanity. We know, for fact, he has done these things. We know Trump can't be reformed. It will be a huge suck on resources to imprison him. Just shoot him, toss his body in a dumpster, and move forward.
I basically said this. I know this is difficult because we're on the internet, but I asked some nuanced questions that require a little more than key slapping. I'm genuinely curious if they matter at all.
For me, it's our financial system that created this piece of shit and our judicial system that failed to keep him in check. He's working and acting the way he does because he had a broken, corrupt family and was never taught moral code or an ethical framework. Yet our electoral system put him into power despite him not getting the majority. Our corporate media keeps airing him for the views. Our digital and print media keep covering him for the clicks...
WE are to blame because we the people cannot unfuck this country.
That explains, but does not excuse. You can judge, it's not some grey area, he did these things, he had the education to know better. The corrupt system explains how it came to be, but neither get off because of it. Trump is guilty, the system is guilty. Just because it is a lot easier to throw away Trump doesn't mean we shouldn't. While more, and more, draconic penalties do not continue to produce more, and more, deterrence, infinitely, the fact that there are serious penalties for your actions does have a major deterrence factor. Billionaires have had zero serious consequences to their actions. So giving them serious consequences is a first step towards systemic reform.
The thing is, he's not the only one. He just happens to be the most obnoxious and openly dangerous one.
Have to start somewhere. When you do all you can to affect change, and nothing happens, you are forced to accept or turn to violence.