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  • Ukraine downed a Russian Su-34 fighter jet over Kursk amid an ongoing territorial push.
  • The Su-34, worth around $36 million, is Russia's most efficient fighter bomber with advanced tech.
  • Ukraine has previously held long kill streaks with Russian Su-34s.
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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

So, why are the russians resentful for the 90s towards the US?

The coup that brought Yeltsin to power is believed to have been a plot by US intelligence services. And the post-90s break up of the USSR resulted in a pillaging of national assets through privatization, which upset a lot of people.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Everything is an american coup to some people, even when the USSR military performs a coup against the leader of the USSR 😔

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Everything is an american coup to some people

Americans have a long and storied history of sponsoring coups.

the USSR military performs a coup against the leader of the USSR

Yeltsin didn't restore Gorbachev after the coup. He took the leadership of the country for himself and dissolved the entire Communist Party. Then his governing coalition instituted a rule that effectively allowed him to impose privatization by fiat in defiance of existing laws.

This lead to the era of Russian gangster capitalism that plunged the country into a near-decade long depression, as the country was opened up to foreign industries looting the nation's capital stocks and resource reserves for the enrichment of a handful of Yeltsin's closest allies (most notably, a young St. Petersburg mayor named Vladimir Putin).

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

yeah, I know. Putin is also probably an american agent. It's all the US, everywhere in the world whenever a country fucks up.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Putin is also probably an american agent.

Back in 2001, he and Bush Jr were close geopolitical allies. Bush's father was the head of the CIA shortly before joining the Reagan ticket. Both father and son staffed their cabinets with a veritable spook show of current and former agency flaks. And the Trump cabinet members who were recommended by the RNC (Tillerson and Pompeo most notably) already had close ties to the Russian government before the election. There are plenty of modern day Putin allies - Hungary's Victor Orban, Turkiye's Recep Erdoğan, Saudi Arabia's Muhammad bin Salmen, and Israeli's Benjamin Netanyahu - who remain close with the old Bush-era neocon wing of the GOP.

You don't have to believe these guys are "agents" to see that they've got very obvious socio-economic relationships with the Republican Party of the United States and the banks and business interests that prop it up. You just need to see them as benefiting from one another's positions as head of their respective national governments.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

Ok, that's a bit of a 90 degree turn, but I can't say I disagree with those associations. Include Milei and the oligarchs Thiel and Musk to complete the picture.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Absolutely. They're the 21st century iteration of the Noriegas/Husseins, the Onassises, and the Adelsons of the 20th century. Don't ask how they got there. Don't ask where all that money is coming from. Just trust that they're very popular in certain boutique social circles and leave it at that.

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