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Trump keeps watching shooting clip: ‘May legit have PTSD’
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plenty of people like to shoot guns. lefties, however, do not get butthurt because its a core part of our identities so when someone says 'you're so bad at shooting we dont even trust you to point that thing in the right ~120 degree arc to not risk shooting at us, go away'.
you addressed everything I said. so... what IS up with you? lets go back to point 5. feels like that's more what this is about.
I promise you there are lefties that would get pissed off if they were told they were a bad shot. Stop assuming everyone on the left is your perfect model of person. They aren't. We can have issues too.
I addressed point 5 multiple times at this point I think. Pretending like we have information we don't have leaves us in danger, and lying about information we don't have makes our standing fragile. We have no need to lie because we're on the right side.
Just be honest. The kid had conservative parents, supposedly expressed some conservative views to other students, wanted to join the gun club but was dangerous whole shooting so was denied, donated a small amount to a progressive fund, and searched for both Biden and Trump events. That's what we know (I think, unless more has come out). He obviously wasn't a leftist, but he was a dumb teenager. I don't know if he knew what he believed.
pissed? sure. 'murder someone about it'? unlikely. the things we get THAT upset about are entirely different.
okay but we do have information. I addressed that in points one and two. we do have information. I told you what information we have. so I return to point five, and wonder if you need a hug.
he searched for both biden and trump (and I think some others?) events because he didn't care WHO he shot, just that it was important. the kid was a right winger, in specifically the way that children can be, and that motivated that he did a shooting, but not who he shot. correct. this is what I said originally.
that is what I meant by 'in the way that kids are'
You keep implying I'm being emotional because you're arguing with me and have no grounding, so it makes you feel like your argument is stronger. Please, go away if that's all you're going to keep doing. I have not been emotional. Your insults seem to imply you potentially are though, so reconsider why you're doing this.
It seems pretty clear to me it was suicide. That was the goal, and leaving a mark was a bonus. He searched for both Biden and Trump events. It seems he would have taken either opportunity to go out while killing a (former) president and presidential candidate. It was not politically motivated and I don't know how you can assume he's right wing?
Yet you still say he's right wing. Based on what evidence? His parent's Trump signs, or the fact he said some "conservative" things to classmates at some point in time (and assume they can correctly identify conservative from anarchist or anything else being dumb teenagers)?
Look. I don't really care. I just don't appreciate dishonesty. Saying we have more information than we do is dishonest. I'm not replying to this anymore unless you actually add information. All you added this time is that "I'm being emotional" and even that wasn't the first time you did so. If you have more information, go ahead and include it. If not, you don't actually know his political ideology and you don't care about honesty.
i keep imply an existential crisis about the limits of knowledge, because we pretty-much know, and that's the only good-faith assumption I can think of that explains the uncertainty here.
How do we pretty much know? What more information do you have? You hope, and that's it. You have faith, which isn't useful.
Also, this isn't existential. It happened for sure, and the reasons exist. We may never know them though, but that isn't an existential crisis. If you're going to use terms like that, at least learn what they mean.
I said all this.
and I ask again: are you currently having an existential crisis about the limits of knowledge and the fundamental contradictions of knowledge? are you courting chapel perilous? are you balancing on the knifes edge of zen and madness? because that's the only way I can explain this level of skepticism.