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The author may be a right-wing fellow. Nonetheless, the data he exposes are taken from official Mozilla docs.

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[-] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

This “report” is exactly what I would expect from Lunduke. It is really sad that this reactionary content comes from someone who I once thought was cool.

It's sad. When I discovered the Linux Action Show back in 2006 or 2007, he seemed like a fun and interesting person. But it's amazing how quickly that perception proved false. And his Twitter feed in 2020 was a dumpster fire.

Well, simply put : left-leaning politics (though embedded in neoliberal Californian ideals of the internet) are embedded at the core of Mozilla from the start with Mozilla manifesto.

Which is so fascinating given the involvement of people like Brendan Eich, and also descending from noted Libertarian and capitalist Marc Andreesen

[-] Lionir@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

I mean, the neolib Californian ideals of the internet was anarchist so always anti-gov but not anti-corporate. That's how you end up with compromise points in the Mozilla manifesto like this:

Commercial involvement in the development of the internet brings many benefits; a balance between commercial profit and public benefit is critical.

Principle 9

Worth mentioning that Eich came from the Netscape days and was highly influential on a technical level.

[-] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Worth mentioning that Eich came from the Netscape days and was highly influential on a technical level.

Oh yeah for sure. Foundational on the browser, and with developing JavaScript. But a shit person. I guess the Prop8 business was finally a bridge too far, PR-wise

[-] Lionir@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, of course. I'm not defending Eich, just some insight on how he got there :P

[-] zaphod@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Disregard everything below. I mistook the comment about neo-liberalism for a quote from this guy.

I'm leaving the text up for context, but this criticism is misdirected.

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It says everything you need to know that he (I suspect deliberately) confuses neo-liberal for left-wing ideology.

Neo-liberal = capitalist with a smoking jacket and a fancy degree on the wall.

SV is absolute rife with anarcho-capitalist ideology. I can only dream of a version of SV that actually carries some measure of economically liberal ideology.

My guess is this guy is confusing social liberalism with economic liberalism. But, of course, that's the entire right wing schtick these days.

[-] Lionir@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I might be confused but Lunduke doesn't mention neoliberalism or left-wing ideology in that article - I did.

Of course neoliberalism is to the right of what I'd consider to be left-wing and it works very much hand in hand with conservatism but it's usually socially liberal. I think Mozilla definitely fits a weird bill, it's hard to pinpoint because the principles are largely about individual rights yet the addendum definitely feels atleast socially liberal. That said, it seems most of the causes they support are left-wing.

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