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[-] stallmer@lemmy.one 19 points 2 years ago

Is there a reason these commands weren’t at some point combined into one flag?

I can see why you’d want separate “update” and “upgrade” options, but another flag that does both without writing such a long command would be nice.

Maybe I just don’t know enough about apt and such a flag does exist? Maybe they’re just expecting folks to create an alias?

[-] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can see why you’d want separate “update” and “upgrade” options

i don't. anyone care to explain?

[-] elvith@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

Maybe for a server - regularly update the package list and compile a list of packages needed to be upgraded. Then send the list to an admin and let them do the update, so that it isn't unattended.

[-] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

makes sense, other package managers do the same. mixed it up with upgrade dist-upgrade which i still don't really get

[-] aulin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

upgrade upgrades only installed packages, and only when it can do so without adding/removing other packages. dist-upgrade will do the same, plus upgrade packages that have dependency changes. If package A v1 depends on package B, but package A v2 depends on package C instead, using upgrade will keep your package A at v1, while dist-upgrade will install the new dependency and upgrade package A to v2.

[-] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

great explanation, thank you :)

[-] shadeless@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Can you also please elaborate on what full-upgrade does?

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

full-upgrade is dist-upgrade, it got renamed because of the possible ambiguity (one could think that it upgrade your distribution, like from debian 11 to 12)

[-] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you want to install something, do you wish to just update before hand, or to upgrade too ? I guess the former.

Now you could add update to the install function, but it would mean if you updated 5 mins ago for install something, you would need to update again as you install something else.

Better to keep them separated and call them as you wish.

this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2023
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