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Unpopular Opinion
Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!
How voting works:
Vote the opposite of the norm.
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
Guidelines:
Tag your post, if possible (not required)
- If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
- If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].
Rules:
1. NO POLITICS
Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.
2. Be civil.
Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.
5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
To answer your first question first, empathy is a social skill and if you truly want to understand other people's opinions, it's a skill you must hone. No one is saying you must be empathic, but if you want to truly get why some people like it more when they can immerse themselves in a piece of art, then you do need to be able to try to walk in their shoes.
Regarding your second point, you framed the original post as a fact of life and not an opinion ('games are not supposed to be realistic' vs 'i think games shouldn't be realistic') so don't be surprised when people argue against your opinion as if it were fact.
But the community I posted it in is unpopular OPINION
Yeah, which invites people to discuss and to offer counter-arguments. So why are you on the defensive about it? When you open up a topic for discussion and people have a different opinion than you, usually instead of resorting to 'is my opinion, deal with it', people often offer a footing for their argument to stand on.
You accused me of claiming something as a fact of life. I'm defensive because it seems you misunderstood my intentions and have criticized me upon that misunderstanding. You aren't expressing a counter argument, you're expressing an accusation
I expressed my counter argument in my first comment. You then replied with a non-answer, trying to justify your lack of argument with the community name.
And let me be clear, I'm not criticizing you, I'm criticizing your debating. You started the original post making an assumption and stating it as fact while failing to provide a compelling argument to back it up, so when people inevitably try to discuss it, you did hide behind the curtain of 'it's my opinion, I'm not harming anyone'. Which makes it the more ironic when you brought to attention the community name in response to me calling you out.
You claimed I regarded my post as a fact. That is not true. Observing the community I posted it in, proves otherwise and you have built an argument under the assumption that I believe it's a fact. It's not my problem that you wonder into a community with "opinion" in the name and think people who post here believe life should change for what they say. You take yourself way too serious
You keep referencing the community as if I wasn't aware. I made a comment yesterday here in this very thread referencing it, so I clearly know this is a place for unpopular opinions, that's why I'm debating in good faith and that's why I said in my previous comment it was ironic.
But no, please re-read what I said, that you started the post with an assumption, and you presented it as fact. That's not debatable, you stated that games aren't supposed to be realistic. You didn't back that up with an argument, you just repeated how you think games should be perceived and then proceeded to trash a popular franchise as an example.
Like I said, I mean no animosity towards you. But I chimed in literally because this community invites to debate
Bro. I'm just going to give you about 15 minutes to read this, then I'm going to block you. You have constantly ignored the fact that you're not treating it as an opinion, and treating it like you believe what I say is an absolute. Leave this community because you think what you have to say is special to people trying to share their opinions. You're not debating, you're accusing, and you seem to not understand the difference, and I have zero interest to explain the difference to you any further. My advice would be to avoid this community in the future because you seem to not know the difference between opinion and rule