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Jill Stein, Claudia De la Cruz, and Cornel West urge voters to Abandon Harris over Gaza (www.msn.com)

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did I say it was just like gaza? no.

I did say it was a genocidal campaign, though.

By the way, this war started in 2014, with the invasion and annexation of Crimea. So, naturally they've been seeking weapons for that long.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago

I did say it was a genocidal campaign, though.

But it’s not. Russia isn’t targeting civilians.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sure. I believe you. Totally.

You mean, aside from the systematic attack on healthcare, and their Schools, and other , Civilian, infrastructure.

Including blowing up a hydro electric damn and flooding an entire region.

oh, and lets just ignore the cultural genocide of abducting children

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As tragic as the situation in Ukraine is, you can’t just call everything genocide. That’s a disservice to the victims of actual genocide.

Here’s some information about genocide:

https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/what-is-genocide/the-ten-stages-of-genocide/

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Genocide is defined, under international treaty- specifically, the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide , aka, the Geneva Convention.

Specifically, Article 2 defines genocide as:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Care to explain how 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 aren't literally all being ticked off by Russian forces in Ukraine? any one of those actions is sufficient.

Even according to your own source... Russia is ticking most of those stages- 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. 10. the only one (so far as I know,) not being actively engaged in is "symbolization" and I would suggest that's not necessary for a genocide. at least not in a literal "force them to wear symbols of their oppression" level of symbolization.

and you're also participating in #10, too.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

and you're also participating in #10, too.

That’s enough. We’re done here.

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