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[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 51 points 3 months ago

As someone said on this thread: as soon as they can convince legislators, even if they are murder machines, capital will go for it.

Borrowing from my favorite movie: "it's just a glitch".

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I doubt it. The liability would be far too great. Ambulance chasing lawyers would salivate at the chance to represent the families of pedestrians struck and killed by buggy self driving cars. Those capitalists don't want endless years of class action cases tying up their profits.

[-] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

When was the last time a corporation got anything other than a slap on the wrist and a small donation to the government just so they could keep doing what they're doing?

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Like Boeing. As much as I hate people saying dumb shit about a company they don't know much of anything about, Boeing is the epitome of what you said. A company getting a small slap on the wrist for gross negligence in the name of profit. Especially because of all the goodies they develope for the US Federal Government. And since they are a world wide company our government isn't the only one. They know they reside in a place of power because they fill a hole in an industry that basically has to be filled. And people want to try to bankrupt them with some weird ideas about voting with their dollar. But that's nonsense.

People don't understand about how they build planes not to sell but to lease. How these types of leases keep their customers paying out the nose for an asset they don't own, and responsible for the maintenance of that asset until it's time to upgrade. They cornered the market on enshitification long before the likes of Microsoft and Google, and they have mastered the art of it.

Tesla or Uber or whoever wish they could do what Boeing has been doing for decades. People have this rose tinted glasses view of what Boeing "used to be" when it was "run by engineers" etc. That's hilarious to me. Back in the day they hedged their bets in a race to the bottom to develop a two engined plane that wouldn't catastrophically fail and fall out of the sky if it lost an engine so they could skirt worldwide federal regulations that required planes to have more than two engines. This added to upkeep and fuel costs making it untenable and creating air travel that was incredibly expensive. And their engineers managed it, so they played the long game, basically allowing them to develop planes that were more fuel efficient and cost effective to maintenance meaning their customers could afford to buy more of them by providing air travel opportunities to more people.

You know what we got from that? Shittier seating arrangements, poorly manufactured planes, and baggage fees out the whazoo in addition to ever rising ticket prices for air travel.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Alternatively measures could be put in place to eliminate certain edge cases. You can see similar concepts in places with separate infrastructure for things like busses or HOV lanes. Places you could still ostensibly allow "regular" vehicles to travel but limit/eliminate pedestrians or merging.

[-] yildolw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

We're working on it, although for some parts of the world we will need to go through periods of increased snowfall to get there.

[-] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Tbf human operated cars are also murder machines, we just are more amenable to tolerating it

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