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So Bernie and AOC aren't socialists now?
Uh? No they didn't? Did you even watch the convention? They had a few Republicans and cops who spoke for less than ten minutes each. Meanwhile they had dozens of women of color, and women's rights were one of the main themes of the entire convention.
Why would they watch the conversation when you can just make up what you feel probably happened based on emotion?
Lemmy has a real feelings = facts problem and it's sad.
Bernie and AOC have never been socialists.
Lol, he literally argues for the means of production being owned by workers.
I mean, he does argue for worker co-ops, yes.
Yes, he also supports forcefully cooperativizing companies over time. He wanted to create a program to gradually have a federally backed buyout of the largest 1000 U.S companies, with mandatory partial worker ownership of any company over a certain number of employees, and mandatory votes for the corporate boards for workers.
Here was the plan from the campaign.
Sounds like a great idea.
It also sounds like socialism.
I mean I agree it's a good idea of course. I just wanted to make the point that Bernie and AOC are, in fact, socialists. Way too many people from all sides of the political spectrum think "Oh he just wants to be like Denmark he's not really socialist" or "Bernie would be right wing in Europe" just because the media didn't really ever cover his cooperativization plan or talk of workplace democracy.