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[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not talking about commutes, I'm talking about going to the city for an appointment/shopping/conference/concert/sightseeing/etc.

But yeah, cycling the last mile works in the Netherlands between cities or suburbs because they are relatively well served by inter-city transit, but what about places like this random dairy farm . Can this guy just take his bike to downtown Amsterdam?

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, but should be able to take a bus. Even so, let him use a car I don't mind, that's what they're for. Long distance transit, heavy hauling. The problem is with 95+% of the trips that are 4 miles and under where people drive their enormous pick-up trucks all empty. You can do those by bike.

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Just an example of what happens when you start reworked more and more car cities into people cities. You can still get there by car, it's just that public transport and bike and walking is easier so why wouldn't you

[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's exactly what I was saying a few comments up. There's a use-case for cars, and there needs to be a way to get into the city when you arrive by car. Any good solution will probably involve parking the car somewhere outside city limits, otherwise it'll probably be co-opted by suburbanites.

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