70
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by kalanggam@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

For those who don't want to click through, this is the content of the post:

There is another reason I find the discussion about blocking #Meta's #ActivityPub project #Threads interesting:

I've been saying for a while now that the #Fediverse is a new and different beast, and whoever tries to understand it simply as a direct social media replacement misses the whole picture. We're also federated communities, just as much.

Today we see a lot of concern about "what will the #Fediverse do" with #Meta. Wanna know what we will do? Everything and nothing. Because the Fediverse is not one entity. This is the essence of its decentralized nature - and that's cool. If your server intends to block Meta servers completely - cool. If not, cool again.

But if you expect a unified response on something like that, you're in for a disappointment.

This is not a "schism", a "problem", something to "solve". This is just decentralization in practice. We don't need to have the same blocklists, and that's ok. Open protocols are not something you can control, so chill. When the time comes for this subject, choose a server with a policy that you agree with. But if you're worried that we won't all have one unified stance... are you sure you actually like #decentralization?

Edit: It looks like the post got copied by Lemmy anyway, but I'll leave it for now just in case it doesn't show up on Mlem or Jerboa (or if it gets deleted)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Kaldo@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I find it hard to understand the argument here, mastodon is full of people dramatically distancing themselves from the "fediverse meta drama" but I don't see anyone actually talking about what the issue is. Are people just vaguely afraid of how meta will change the culture of fediverse and don't have anything specific to say or am I missing something?

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 13 points 1 year ago

I think the biggest risk is "Embrace Extend Extinguish".

Kind of like how FB Messenger is based off XMPP.

Facebook puts out their new Twitter clone and embraces the fediverse to get access to our community and content.

Facebook extends the fediverse and adds reaction emojis and videos that only show up on MetaTwitter, not on Mastodon. This draws all the users to MetaTwitter and makes them the defacto instance for federated microblogging.

After a few years as MetaTwitter becomes an institution, they extinguish their open-source competition by blocking federation, and now all the Mastodon users have to make MetaTwitter accounts if they want to keep microblogging with their friends.

This happened with Internet Explorer, XMPP, and it's ongoing right now with Google's Amp email and project Fuschia.

Any attempt to extend GPL code in a non GPL way is an attack on our rights as users.

[-] nightdice@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

That, and Meta has the infrastructure/paid developers to develop features/respond to issues much faster, which might cause more casual users to migrate over because they see things they desire.

Another worry I've seen around is that if the Meta instance is not blocked/defederated, it could aggregate all that data and sell it, which is something lots of people explicitly do not want.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2023
70 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

37720 readers
606 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS