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Is there a good, modern, widely accepted, learning Linux resource?
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I want to use the terminal and I'd prefer the simplicity and reliability of a single command over various GUIs, but it doesn't feel like it's consistent or simple with the terminal either. For example with VSCode, it doesn't have
apt-get install vscodecommand (at least not listed on its installation pages) - it recommends manually downloading the deb file and then apt installing it.https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux
I just don't know whats the proper / good way of doing it anymore. The popOS shop is horrible, you cant stop running installations cuz it freezes and stops giving any feedback, sometimes it breaks and doesn't open fully, the UX is bad, but i dont know what else to do. At least with the shop I have a clear list of installed apps and a place to uninstall them, if i do it with the terminal I have no idea where they end up living.
dpkg -lwill list all .deb packages installed on your system.That gives me a list of over 2000 rows inside of the terminal that i cant apparently search or sort -.-
Then I tried to be smart and do
man dpkg -lto see if that has any options on how to use it better, and instead i got another huge text file that i cant search or navigate through properlySo then i googled how to open it in an editor and tried
man dpkg -l | nano, which does open it for a second and then crashes, i just get "too many errors from stdin, buffer written to nano.12608.save" in the terminalofc something as simple as
map dpkg -l | vscodedoesnt work eitherI'm just tired
It can be exhausting to know just enough to see results that aren't quite what you're after, but not quite know enough to refine it to get what you want. And you're supper close to it. Here's some things to fill the gap (and correct a misunderstanding or two):
The
dpkg -lcommand can be postfixed with a search pattern:dpkg -l lib*will return all packages with names that start withlibdpkg -l ?lib*will return all packages with names that havelibin the second third and fourth character positions.Yeah, man pages are overwhelming at times. There are ways to navigate them in the terminal, but I would have to look that up because I pretty much never do that. It's easier for me to just look it up online or open the text in an editor. Looks like you had the same idea with trying
man dpkg -l | nanoandman dpkg -l | vscodeand you were so close to the end goal of reading the man page in a text editor!Here are two ways you can make it work:
For both methods you will need to drop the
-lso just useman dpkg.Method 1:
Use the
>operator to redirect the output ofman dpkgto a file:man dpkg > dpkg.man(note that the file name after the
>operator above can be anything you want the name of the file to be. I chosedpkg.manbecause it seemed like it would be easy to remember for me.)Then open the file using nano or vscode:
nano dpkg.mancode dpkg.man(note the name of the package for vscode is
code)Method 2:
Use the
|operator to send the output ofman dpkgto a nano filebuffer:man dpkg | nanoThen open file that was saved when nano returned an error message. In your case:
nano nano.12608.savecode nano.12608.save(This second method feels a bit janky but it works.)
Since you were talking about using
apt-getandaptto manage packages, I'll suggest nala as a more beginner friendly alternative that is more verbose and explicit about what it is doing. Give nala a try.I hope this helps and that you can return to learning how to get things done using Linux with renewed resolve now that you've had some time away from it.
Keep asking questions! You're probably learning more than you realize already.
Thank you very much for such a detailed answer! This is exactly the type of stuff I wanted to learn in advance from some generalist tutorial because honestly, I feel bad constantly asking such basic questions and there's no guarantee there will always be someone like you to answer them. In retrospect it's probably the smarter and simpler option to just google the command docs online, I just wanted to do it "right" since I heard all the praise about
mancommand and you never know if you're working offline.I'll check out nala, could be a good learning tool, thanks!
I find that books and resources on basics are hard to find motivation to get through. I don't have a problem researching for an hour or two when I'm stuck on something that I want to accomplish, but that same information would be impossible for me to focus on if there's no immediate motive to read it. Knowing that some information might generally come in handy later is often not enough for me to stick with it. So I don't think people really mind helping people with "basic" questions, but their availability can unreliable.
That said, there are a lot of good suggestions in both threads you started and if you can stick with any of them it will probably be a big boost for your comfort level in using Linux.
Now you can open man pages in your favorite text editor with all the associated navigational conveniences!
A lot of people who try nala never switch back to apt, I hope you find it more pleasant to use.