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Great.
I joined the Fediverse to escape Facebook's toxic interpretation of communities, so Facebook is coming to the Fediverse instead.
Just great...
You should just join an instance that blocks threads.net. Fortunately there are many of such instances. Your current instance doesn't seem to defederate any other instance, which is kind of suspect on its own.
SDF is a very hands-off instance. I've seen many trolls in bad actors on there. It also has some management issues since it can go down for long periods of time.
The only reason I have an account there and the only reason I would encourage anyone to use it is because it's run by the SDF foundation and it will probably be around forever. Well at least as long SDF itself.
Blocking everyone and every community you see from Facebook's new parasite social media could be good, me thinks.
@Auster@lemm.ee You can just use an instance that is defederated from them, that's the beauty of the Fediverse
According to https://lemm.ee/instances your instance already blocks them for example
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
can't you selectively block entire instances? you can in Boost
It's not just a matter of blocking Threads users.
Facebook is coming on here to slurp up data I don't want them to have, and enriching their own Threads ecosystem with Fediverse content they haven't lifted a finger to create.
Not to mention, when Threads users are able to fully interact in the Fediverse, do you really want that particular bunch to create noise in your communities? I don't. There's a reason why I avoid Facebook in all its forms.
Uh.. this fediverse stuff is all on the public internet. Facebook could be slurping it up just as easily without joining at all.
It doesn't matter. People will never understand the difference between the open web and walled gardens.
People say they want freedom, but in reality they want to become little tyrants. We've been asking for years to have a level-up playing field, and now that we do these reactionaries are going to find something else about it.
Definitely not as easily and 100% not legally. I actually don't think they would scrape stuff off of the fediverse like that because that is just a lawsuit waiting. Besides, scraping is really not feasible when it comes to getting information like that.
right but if I block their instance, they can never interact with me and vice versa.
Aw, buddy, cheer up.
Here's some minions memes doing racist things! I mean, I assume thats what goes on if you're on facebook.
From the instances I used, it seems to be a mixed bag. Some even allowed for the user to block domains unrelated to the fediverse.
Was commenting more generally, in case there's someone against Facebook in instances that don't block them.
And about lemm.ee, although the guy running it is strongly against defederation, I guess Facebook the company is too much even for him. "<.<
There was a vote about it in !meta@lemm.ee : https://lemm.ee/post/851217
I wanted to vote against defederation (edit: i was offline that week or something, I can see I didn't vote) I liked on this instance that we are treated as adults, and the admin let us decide what we want to see. You can block instances if you want. Defederating with Threads even before we can see how it would work goes against this philosophy.
Afaik there is no way to see anything from threads on lemmy yet, connection with mastodon like services work only, so we are again debating about a not yet existing thing.
If it will work between threads and lemmy I will look for another instance where I can devide what I want to see.
Having no defederation is not being treated as adults, it's just a free for all. User-specific blocking is not adequate for stopping bad influences on the fediverse and simply can't do the same as instance-level defederation.
Preferring no defederation at all is akin to "free speech absolutism" - it asserts that anyone can say anything and anyone else can just choose to not listen individually. But that's not really a good path for a welcoming and understanding environment.
How can we know?
Check https://fedipact.online for instances that have defederated threads. Good luck! :)
Fedipact needs much more exposure. It's important to spread this message both because of Facebook's evil practices, but also that they favor hostile users and have atrocious moderation letting a lot of nasty shit slide that shouldn't.
Feel free to make a community or find one and link it here! :) i‘ll happily join and put in some work.
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