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Can't believe you are asking this now. In the 70s, I don't believe any of these yokels would have been elected. Lauren Beaubert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Trump, they've all done things and said things that are so far over the line, it isn't even funny. Nixon? Please, he would be small potatoes today.
Why? Gerrymandering. Social Media. Lack of critical thinking skills. A sense of hopelessness. Apathy. Billionaire brainwashing. The list goes on. The strange thing is, conservatives want to go back to the way things were. For them that means when women had to go to back alleys to get abortions, when gays were stoned, when blacks weren't allowed to vote. For me it means when people didn't justify these ridiculous notions, but instead just said, "No!"
conservatives aren't conservative any more. they are radically backwards. the things they want are so far back, they don't even want democracy any more. i don't really have a say in that, but maybe the time has come to stop calling them conservative.
I'm conservative vs. most of lemmy and damned if I'll vote anything but straight D right down to dogcatcher. I wouldn't vote for an R even if I liked them! The message must be sent. Even if it's a loss, your vote ends up as a percentage on a spreadsheet. It is still seen.
Yes. Dems are conservatives. Repubs are regressives.
It's what the radical far left has been saying all along lol
i really wish more conservatives would accept this, or at the very least not back trump even a little bit, the dude who literally tried to overthrow the election, they throw so much bullshit at dems and dem controlled cities, but have literally no evidence other than "BUT BUT BLM" and "well, they're taxes are higher" which is literally meaningless.
I know, as a conservative I get everything I asked for in the 1990’s by voting mainstream Democrat now. The parties can change all they want, I vote my views.
Yeah sadly American has no left wing party, just a right and far right.
That's a hell of a vacuous argument. Would you rather get seen outside of a window or let into the store?
Nobody gives a shit about the non-voting numbers or third party ballots, if anything, their response is negative, not positive: They claim people aren't exercising their right to vote, or that someone has "spoiled the election".
Meanwhile, those aligned to parties are forming orderly queues and voting consistently.
Which strategy do you think is more effective, from a political science and historical perspective?
They are "regressives".
I call them "degeneratives". They are both degenerated, and want others to degenerate Atwell.
Atwell can't be degenerated. his regeneration power is far too great (at least in the comics.). /s
Yeah there was a long time ago when conservatives voted to protect national parks. These aren’t those times
Conservatives are exactly the same as they have always been. It's just that conservatives define their priorities and their values and priorities around their identity, and that means their values and priorities shift with whatever is best for the conservative at the time. There are no universally conservative values, just the generic resistance to change things conservatives like. When a conservative benefits from a strong federal government, they support it. When a conservative benefits from abortion, they support it. When a conservative is a minority, or gay, or a woman, they support equalish rights for themselves. It's narcissism wearing the cloak of stoic preservation of their "heritage," and it's always paper-thin.
This also means anyone opposing the conservative is not a member of the self, but a member of the other. The other is evil, because they are outside of the self. Anything the other does in opposition to the self is evil. An other could save a busload of nuns and kittens, and the conservative would complain about the traffic caused by the other. Anything the self does in support of the self is good. Lying, cheating, stealing, killing, raping, everything is on the table if it can be justified in support or defense of the self. From the outside of the self, it looks like hypocrisy, but it's really not, because the conservative never truly holds an opinion. They just say what they need to say to win.
It’s wild that Trump has done things far worse than watergate, and still got the nomination.
It is. The world is stranger than I could possibly ever have imagined. Sometimes I play a thought game. What if I had to explain this to, an alien.
"Yes, this is how it works. Are you going to destroy us now? Yeah, we probably deserve this."
My game is explaining this to my dad who died in the mid-80s. Cannot even summon words.
It's not wild, it's the GOP plan since Nixon got nabbed.
Drumpf just happened to have that crazy crowd draw, so they yoked their hopes that he would be the first king of America, and disregarded everything else to forward that goal.
Cheetolini could eat a baby live on national television and his numbers would barely dip.
I don't think they took him willingly, since he is a narcissistic moron. I think they were stuck with him when he managed to win over the far right radicals they have been grooming for decades. He is a racist schoolyard bully making their enemies angry, that's all they care about.
The right wing has been actively working to undermine our educational system since the early 80's. A poorly educated populace, particularly one without critical thinking skills, is much easier to manipulate. After four decades of underfunding, restrictive policies, and anti-intellectual propaganda, those efforts are really paying off.
Newt Gingrich and his co-conspirators have been waging war against the people of this country since Reagan was elected. And they are now dangerously close to winning that war.
I don't think the attack on education was a long-term manipulation thing. Rather, it evolved from the question, "Why are all these educated people turning into liberals?!"
That question demands an answer. They can hardly let the appearance that they're dumb stand! So guys like Limbaugh started attacking "ivory tower liberals". That resonated, they rolled with it. Then the Christians saw the opportunity, got their filthy fingers into the cracks, started undermining public education in favor of their own.
MTG would have been right at home as a Dixiecrat.
She would have neen standing beside George Wallace.
If you say so. I'm more of an 80s person. All I know about George Wallace is that he was shot.
They're probably just young.