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Jill Stein, Chase Oliver Could Cost Kamala Harris in Pennsylvania: Poll
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What's the goal for Jill Stein? Climate change initiatives? Liberals are fighting in the trenches to make change while she's giving lipservice.
Policy making isn't easy, democracy is slow. Holding the Democratic Party hostage to force them to do something they already want just hurts the cause.
Her goal is to advance Putin’s interests, of course. OP knows this. He’s just fucking about because that’s his job.
How is that my "job"? I didn't write the article. You know that, right?
Your reading comprehension is quite poor, Ivan.
It's actually Karl, thanks.
I actually lean more socialist than green, but I think the goal for Jill Stein is to push for more urgent and comprehensive action on issues like climate change, healthcare, and social justice—things that many feel aren't being addressed quickly or effectively enough by the Democratic Party.
I agree that policy-making is slow and democracy can be messy, supporting third-party candidates is about pushing the conversation further and holding all parties accountable to the people.
The duopoly has had countless chances with both Democrats and Republicans taking turns in power, yet they haven’t made the necessary changes. It’s not about hurting the cause; it’s about ending the cycle of inaction and ensuring the issues we care about don’t get sidelined.
Well, Republicans are actively opposed to those things. And Democrats need enough support to enact those things.
It's frustrating for Dems too. And it's more frustrating when people like Jill Stein make it harder. She should join the party instead of fighting it. But I guess this makes her feel better. She can dislike the system, but things are going to get worse if Republicans win. Just like things got worse in 2016.
It’s easy to see why it’s frustrating, but frustration isn’t a reason to surrender to a broken system.
Jill Stein, like many of us, refuses to be another cog in a machine that perpetuates inequality and injustice. Joining a party that continually lets down the very people it claims to represent isn’t the solution—it’s the problem.
Things got worse in 2016 because the Democrats failed to inspire real change, and repeating the same failed strategy won’t protect us from the Republicans or bring about the progress we desperately need.
Frustration isn't a reason to give in to a fantasy.
You want a party that will support those initiatives? You have one. It's the Democratic Party. If they don't have enough support now to get that shit done, they're definitely not going to when Republicans take over.
You may not like it, but Dems (specifically liberals and progressives) need more power to enact real change. If you're working against that, you're working against your own goals to make yourself feel better.
The Democratic Party has had its chances, time and time again, and what do we have to show for it? More of the same—a system that props up the wealthy, ignores the working class, and perpetuates endless wars.
If you think more power to the Democrats is the answer, you’re clinging to a fantasy of your own.
Real change doesn’t come from begging the duopoly for scraps; it comes from breaking their stranglehold and fighting for a system that truly represents the people.
The duopoly does represent the people. People suck sometimes. The Democratic Party is the method for people like her to push change. The Democratic Party gives her cause MORE power by consolidating efforts
If there was overwhelming support, even just among liberals, Bernie would have won in 2016 or 2020.
The duopoly only represents the people as long as it keeps them divided and powerless. Consolidating efforts under the Democratic Party has proven time and again to dilute true progressive change, not empower it.
If there was overwhelming support for the establishment, Bernie wouldn’t have faced the massive resistance from within his own party that he did in 2016 and 2020.
And for the record, I liked Bernie and was prepared to vote for him.