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submitted 2 months ago by toaster@slrpnk.net to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

Highway spending increased by 90% in 2021. This is one of many reasons why car traffic is growing faster than population growth.

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

What you are dong there is actually an argument against the other side of the issue. Exclusively Residential zoning plans are what create the situation you are referring to and they also account for the constant risk of bankruptcy of car centric cities. Dense, multi-use zoning allows for the creation of transit corridors where a single bus stop can serve several hundred people within a 5 minute walk, instead of serving just a handful of people within a 20 minute walk (the problem you are complaining about).

[-] y0kai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Valid and I had not considered that.

However, this post is in "fuck cars" not "fuck poor zoning laws." The solutions and complaints I see in this thread have NOTHING to do with remapping the way cities work, which would be necessary to even be able to consider saying "fuck cars" for the vast majority of suburban / rural residents.

The comments here seem entirely fixated on "solving" a symptom of a much larger problem by creating several more problems for other people because it would be more convenient for them.

And while your solution is nice for those in the city I ask again, what if someone lives 20 or 30 miles (not 20 mins walking) away because they can buy a 3 bedroom house in a neighboring city or unincorporated rural area for the price of renting a small studio apartment in the city, and have a nicer view.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They are both the same single problem. Remember that fuck cars is not about the hate of cars solely, but about the car centric infrastructure and its externalities on society. "Fuck cars" as a phrase is just the succinct summary of a largely complex and multifaceted social issue.

[-] y0kai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thank you that's a helpful explanation. I found (find) the name of the group misleading if that's the case, though I understand group names are supposed to be catchy.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

How is it misleading? It's right there in the community description. It's been this way ever since the time it was an advocacy community on reddit obsessed with the not just bikes YouTube channel. There are some issues that always come inextricably integrated, abortion and contraception, school shootings and gun laws, police violence and racism, and car centric culture and zoning laws. Without cars we don't have the need for a slew of laws meant exclusively to accommodate cars. Overly wide streets, exclusive residential zoning, mandatory parking space, to name but a few. Sorry the community isn't called fuckdetachedsinglefamilyhomes but it just wasn't that catchy.

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