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People didn't like this take because I was talking about Israel and Palestine, but if you willingly engage in a war, you forfeit your right to your land. This is how it's always worked.
Israel and Palestine is complex and so many hands have been Involved in the size and creation of the state of Israel. Growing the size of Israel through war is not a good idea in my opinion.
I generally agree. I support Israel's right to exist but there's no good reason for it to grow. I think it can grow through war though, but also believe it shouldn't.
Well, if the Ottoman Empire did not side with the Central Powers in WWI, they wouldn’t have lost their land and it wouldn’t have been sliced up and eventually given to the Zionists. Although, the tension was already there and would have probably been bloody either way, just without allied support.
Oh Franz Ferdinand, you should have stayed home.
Or germany shouldnt have invaded Belgium, couldve delayed Britain's entrance into the war. Allowing a possible defeat of France.
Because one is holy land and the other is ass holey land. Idk actually I really stretched to find a joke.
as far as how it always worked, it never even required willingly going to war, just loosing. id bet there are no people on earth that haven't been conquered and displaced or assimilated at least a bit. many of them hundreds of times. these no such thing as indigenous/native people or land unless you work with a very short memory or have no history.
You're describing genocide. That is not what is happening in Kursk.
See article 49 of the Geneva convention:
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/article-49
Civilians, by definition, do not "willingly engage in a war".
I understand that there are trees, but I was referring specifically to speculation/complaints that Israel might take land out of Gaza as a result of the war. It's not clear how much of that land Palestinians will have once the war is over.
It's not clear how many Palestinians will even be left once it's over.
The issue is that Israel is an apartheid state, as understood by the UN. It's one thing if civilians on annexed territory had equal rights as Israeli citizens, but instead civilians are treated inhumanely in violation of international law. Civilians are tried in military court, evicted from their homes by occupying settlers, and generally do not have equal rights under the law.
It is a concerted effort not just to annex territory, but also to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from occupied land. Ethics regarding annexation aside, the war in Israel isn't about simple annexation.