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The Brazilian president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, has said he hopes the crisis surrounding the social network X in Brazil might teach the world that “it isn’t obliged to put up with [Elon] Musk’s far-right free-for-all just because he is rich”.

Lula’s comments to the network CNN Brasil came after the supreme court voted unanimously on Monday to uphold the ban on X, which is now largely inaccessible in one of its biggest global markets.

The suspension was first ordered on Friday as a result of the company’s refusal to obey court orders requiring the removal of profiles accused of spreading disinformation and for the social network to name a local legal representative.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A. There's an appeals process.

B. If we accept a Chinese version of Google then there's no reason we can't accept a Brazilian version of X.

Musk could have blocked those accounts from being visible in Brazil and then had his legal representative argue that's compliance. That would put the ball back in Brazil's court. Instead Tony Stark wannabe is trying to just go around the government, violating it's sovereignty. Something most countries take pretty poorly.

So we actually don't know if Brazil would have required X to ban them globally. Nobody tested that.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

B. If we accept a Chinese version of Google then there's no reason we can't accept a Brazilian version of X.

You understand Google is banned in China because they wouldn't accept censure right?

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

You know that Twitter isn't banned in Turkiye and India because they complied with their requests for censure, since you know, those are right wing governments run by strong men that the Apartheid beby likes? Funny how free speech becomes the issue just when the requests come from governments whose ideology don't align with this particular clown's. GTFO with the free speech posturing, if you're defending the free speech of a platform where it's fine to harass trans people but you're banned if you correctly call someone cis gendered. Free speech my ass, Twitter is a right wing cess pool, not a beacon of free discourse.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You know that Twitter isn’t banned in Turkiye and India because they complied with their requests for censure,

Yes, and I oppose that.

since you know, those are right wing governments run by strong men

Could be, could be he got fed up with it, idk.

Funny how free speech becomes the issue just when the requests come from governments whose ideology don’t align with this particular clown’s.

Um, no? Free speech was an issue then too. Someone can do good things and bad things. Censoring is bad, refusing to censor even if its just in one case is good.

you’re banned if you correctly call someone cis gendered.

Yes that's bad

I don't know what you're misunderstanding, censorship is bad, its bad when Musk does it, and its really bad when a government does it. Because governments can shoot you and throw you in jail for not complying.

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

It's definitely not a good precedent for governments to shut down communication platforms. But free speech is for all, and Twitter censors speech it doesn't like, mainly left wing opinions. So I'm not going to act like free speech is the main issue here, even if I dislike governments shutting down or blocking platforms.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm more alarmed when a government does it, but regardless, yea his motive might not actually be what he claims, it doesn't really matter though since censorship is still bad

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