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JD Vance says school shootings are a "fact of life"
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Countries ranked in descending order by number of school shootings from 2009-2018:
One of these is not like the others. This isn't exactly a fact of life in other parts of the world.
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Those numbers aren't right.
First, the total-gun-death numbers are not population-adjusted and therefore useless without additional context. The same article does have the population-adjusted numbers and the USA is, predictably, not in the top ten.
Second, once the numbers are adjusted for population, there are some very strange results. For example, apparently Iraq actually has slightly fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA. Nigeria, the country where Boko Haram is based, has four times fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA?! Clearly the gun-death numbers correspond more to how well records are kept in a country than they do to the actual numbers of gun deaths.
Oh, and those gun death numbers include suicides, not just murders. Most gun deaths in the USA are suicides. A suicide is technically a gun death, but not usually the sort that people have in mind when discussing a school shooting.
everything you said is true. i just wanted to add something to the suicide point: owning a gun has been tied with an increased risk of suicide. source
here’s a quote from the link that i think gives a good summary of the problem:
That said, where there's a will, there is indeed a way. Japan for example has abysmal suicide rates, they have a huge shame culture and it's culturally (more) accepted with the seppuku and the suicide forests and all, and they also have virtually 0 gun ownership. Suicide is still very easy without a gun, and a gun is not even the most effective method statistically (though I hesitate to say what is because it's literally accessible to most of the world's population within a 10-20min walk at all times. Don't do it, seek help, keep fighting.)
And again the old and stupid claim from the gun nuts: suicides by firearms are no firearm related deaths...
That's all just shooting, right, not generally a violence situation in a school?
Per capita?
Population of the US: 330m
Brazil: 200m
South Africa: 62m
Afghanistan: 40m
Mexico: 100m
Still not looking so great.
Per gun? Guns are people too, right?
That sounds like a lot more work than just typing a country into DDG and checking the Wikipedia entry.