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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You keep ignoring that Democrats have no problem addressing the concerns of people who don't vote for them, provided those people are Republicans.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

Because, again, they have more votes to gain there than on the left where it's mostly younger people that won't turn out to vote either way.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Because, again, they have more votes to gain there

Those never materialize, but Democrats do it anyway. It's almost like they want to move to the right and will use any excuse to.

than on the left where it’s mostly younger people that won’t turn out to vote either way.

Versus Republicans who overwhelmingly vote against Democrats every time. Yeah, you just want to move to the right since it means continuing support for genocide.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Eh... They actually do materialize though...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/20/nx-s1-5081167/republicans-for-harris-coalitions-have-launched-in-several-swing-states

And they're reliable voters and there's a lot of center right Democrats to lose that are reliable voters and the left has three choices anyway, not voting and letting Republicans win, voting Republican, voting Democrats.

You might not like it, that's the system the US is stuck with.

Again, I'm not in the USA, I have no say in the matter, I just understand political strategy which seems like an issue with most left wing electors (because it goes against left with ideology and principles).

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The highest figure in your article is 100 individuals.

Guess 100 Republicans are worth 42,000 dead Palestinians

Meanwhile, listening to voters and the very possibility of moving left pulled in 1000 times that number:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/26/young-voter-registration-skyrockets-harris/74556135007/

Again, I’m not in the USA, I have no say in the matter

You're right. You don't. Don't worry, neither do I. My name isn't Netanyahu.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Again, that's registrations for a population that doesn't turn out, let's wait and see, but if you look at the % of support for Israel called on age and the % of voters by age, it's clear that there's a shit ton more Israel supporters that are reliable voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/politics/polling-democrats-divided-israel-palestine/index.html

69% disapproval amongst those under 35 that don't turn out to vote vs 77% approval amongst those over 65 that do turn out to vote. And again, no matter how much you cater to them and how convenient you make it to vote, people under 35 just don't bother voting!

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/voter-turnout-rate-by-age-usa

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=rec/eval/pes2021/evt&document=p5&lang=e

Also the 100 Republicans vs 42k Palestinians is a false equivalency, those Palestinians don't have voting right in the USA.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Again, that’s registrations for a population that doesn’t turn out, let’s wait and see,

And in the meantime, make sure to do everything possible to alienate those voters so we can gleefully declare that they don't vote so we can continue supporting genocide.

Israel supporters

Please stop calling genocide supporters "Israel supporters." It's dishonest.

69% disapproval amongst those under 35 that don’t turn out to vote vs 77% approval amongst those over 65 that do turn out to vote

"Fuck off, we don't need you because you don't vote! Wait! Why aren't you voting? Welp, guess we have no choice! We get to support genocide!"

Also the 100 Republicans vs 42k Palestinians is a false equivalency, those Palestinians don’t have voting right in the USA.

God damn, you never miss a chance to be obtuse. Killing 42,000 Palestinians was worth it to you for a lousy 100 Republican votes.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

Again, you refuse to look at examples from outside the USA. Voting in Canada is extremely simple, you get a guaranteed 4h off work while voting is open, they have people willing to transport you, you can show up without ID and swear that you are who you say you are and as long as they have your name and address on the list at the office you showed up to, you can vote. Voter turnout for those under 35? About 45%. We have a variety of parties as well, not just two. In my province we also have a party that is there pretty much specifically to defend the interests of younger people and those with little financial means. People under 35 just don't vote!

They're supporting the decisions of the State of Israel, they're Israel supporters, just like people who support the decisions of the Democrats are Democrat supporters. Yes it's a genocide, it's committed by a State and that State needs to be mentioned.

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