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Tuesday 9/10 Presidential Debate Megathread!
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So here are my thoughts:
All in all, I didn't hate this (other than the sound of Trump's face hole).
I also feel like the moderators were relatively good at calling out egregious lies and not giving Trump the final word. Usually.
But yeah, Trump apparently controlled the mics, not the moderators.
It was sooo frustrating cause they shut down Harris at one point, like stop letting Trump steam roll you and be consistent on who can speak.
And then she came back and made a point to address what she wanted anyways (it was about taking peoples guns). She just did it without being a raging lunatic screaming loud enough to be heard in OTHER mics lol
Trump kept making his Muppet faces. Lol.
This one? Random screen grab, but it happened so frequently...
I'm in no way undecided but I think I can see this pretty clearly from both sides.
He presented better than he has previously, and they absolutely claimed he won then. I think the only thing they're going to ding them on is not being aggressive enough they really loved it when he was slapping his meat at Hillary. By those standards this was a rather dull showing by him. And you bet they watched it. This is the only debate that's going to happen they're not going to miss that.
And from the Democrat side her anti-Israeli war statements were kind of weak. We're not taking away your guns, we're fracking, But she's not here to convert more Democrats she's here to convert moderates and he's just slinging to his base.
He showed up a little nutty instead of roughly senile like he's been showing on tour. I was expecting him to turn into a rabid squirrel.
She presented very well she speaks very well she's well thought out I hope to God she has this.
As an undecided, never trumper, Trump looked like an asshat. The oldest trick in the rhetoric books is to attack the person instead of the subject. A sure sign of weakness.
I don't understand how people think any of their bases will ever change. It's always about the undecided. I am not mocking you. But it's an obvious thing to me.
It's not about the undecided. You'd have to have brain worms to be undecided when Trump is an option. Undecided right now is like choosing between a stale pile of dog shit and fast food and justifying it by saying "well fast food is pretty shitty".
It's about getting people to VOTE. People who don't usually vote need to get out and vote. That's it. That's what's going to make the difference. Kamala has to mobilise reluctant voters.
Did you read what I wrote? It is always about the undecideds. Bases hardly ever sway. I did a paper about it in college. I even received a high mark. Maybe you are responding to the wrong thread?
It's not about the people who are undecided between Kamala and Trump. It's about the people who are undecided between Kamala and not voting at all.
You are over simplifying the problem to suit your needs. There are no facts to support it either. If more people vote it would help a little bit of each. Undecideds are the biggest percentages of voters. Something like 70 percent.
There are undecideds, though. Every election, millions and millions of people turn 18, and they were under 14 the last time this lunatic was in office, too young to really understand. Many may have been raised in conservative households and are just now forming their own opinions as they enter the real world.
And you’re absolutely right about this, which is why the right is desperately trying to make that as hard as possible right now.
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