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So the administration is siding with hunting groups and the NRA against basically every environmental group.
Not a good look, Biden.
The goal for the Endangered Species Act is to protect endangered species. If they are no longer endangered, then they shouldn't be listed on there. It really depends on the wolf population. If there are too many, that too can pose a threat.
I am not nor will I ever be a hunter. The only reason why it should occur is to prevent overpopulation that may wipe out other species.
Not disagreeing. However, it still kind of feels like we're trying to solve wolves to fix a human problem. You know?
When I hear people make comments here about how many deer there seem to be (like wandering through yards or road kill) I remind them, maybe the deer aren't the ones encroaching on humans, they just are running out of places to be.
It's not that they don't have places to go. It's moreso whatever causes them to move likely causes other animals to need to move. It might take a generation or two to settle into a new dynamic between avoiding predators that are also adjusting and finding food and water.
However that doesn't have a major impact on populations. What can have a major impact is being over/under hunted. There needs to be a balance between those extremes. If wolves aren't culled they will hunt the deer population too thin. That heavy predation can lead to population boons of wolves that subsequently suffer due to scarcity of food. This leads to wolves encroaching on human areas and possibly posing a threat. On the other side, if deer have no predators they begin to overpopulate and can also encroach on human areas causing their own issues. With deer, hunting helps keep that population in check. Currently there's nothing keeping the wolf population in check. As others mentioned, the endangered species act was to protect actual endangered species. The goal is to aid the recovery of the population. That's been done. If they continue to receive protection, they'll start causing other problems that will need to be dealt with.
Are there still so few that they need the protection?
Yep. Another trump policy he's wanting to keep
Rejecting a policy just because 'the other side' is the one who implemented it supports it is bad policy. It's basically the way the republican party operates in Congress.
Totally unlike Trump's remain in Mexico policy that Dems said was inhumane, but said nothing when Biden wanted the same thing. The public only cares WHO does what, not what's being done.
Two different things can be different.
I'm talking about wolves, not immigrants. Are you saying that you're against removing an animal from the endangered species list because of immigration policy? Because, that's weird.
I'm talking about the hypocrisy of both parties, crying that the other team is doing something while ignoring their team doing the same thing.