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https://www.historynet.com/how-1930s-american-gang-violence-paved-the-way-for-gun-control/
I mean nobody was talking about gang violence here.
I thought we were talking about gun violence. Gang related or not it was a thing in the 30s.
No? The conversation was (and still is) centered around school shootings.
I literally quoted what I was replying to. "Schools" is not mentioned.
I mean gang violence is usually not a grand spectacle event, so it has nothing to do with the text you're quoted.
Are you serious? There are "icons" from that era known for their violence and "spectacle".
Bonnie & Clyde; Baby face Nelson; Al Capone; John Dillenger; Machine Gun Kelly (before his singing career)
FFS - MACHINE GUN KELLY!
These people were horrible and killed a lot of non-gang members.
"Newsreels from the period chronicled the violence. In one from 1931, footage shot in New York shows walls along a city street pockmarked with bullet holes, and the children caught in the crossfire of gang warfare."
Yes I'm not saying there was zero violence in society. There were things like Al Capone's St. Valentines Day Massacre, Bonnie and Clyde, the Kansas City Union Station shootout, etc. but these were extreme outliers in society at large and were international news because of it.
What is relatively new is the concept of an average student or worker becoming disgruntled and deciding to mass murder peers in a singular incident, usually with some grandiose manifesto attached to it.
School shootings in particular are a "new thing" - I'll grant that. But in general gun violence in the US is definitely not a new thing.
EDIT: Also - schools shooting today are actually still "extreme outliers" on the order of the gang violence of the '30s. They're far more common than they should be, but they're still pretty rare given the number of schools in the US.
for every school shooting there's like 5 "school lockdown because of unidentified person on campus"