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Green Party candidate Jill Stein is gaining ground among Muslim-American voters in three critical swing states: Michigan, Arizona, and Wisconsin, according to a recent poll by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

Stein leads Vice President and Democrat candidate Kamala Harris in these states, with 40 per cent support in Michigan, 35 per cent in Arizona, and 44 per cent in Wisconsin. This surge in popularity appears tied to Stein’s vocal criticism of US support for Israel during the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 month ago

Liberals downvoting this would rather plug their ears and cover their eyes instead of confronting their issues and calling on Kamala to sanction Israel.

[-] aalvare2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Kamala isn’t president yet. You can call on her to sanction Israel as president, without also pushing another candidate.

Jill Stein’s only practical role in this election is as a presidential spoiler benefitting Trump, and if Trump wins then Palestine is really truly f’d anyway.

It also doesn’t help that a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for the disbandment of NATO and the disruption of Ukraine aid. Those are extreme positions that have nothing to do with Israel-Palestine, and many of those interested in voting for her are likely not even aware of those stances.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Jill Stein’s only practical role in this election is as a presidential spoiler benefitting Trump

Can you explain why?

[-] aalvare2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sure.

When I say “practical role”, I’m referring to how Stein affects the results of this election.

There is a nearly 0% chance that Jill Stein is going to win the election, and a nearly 100% chance the winner will be either the Dem or GOP nominee. Given that she’s left of Kamala, who’s left of Trump, there are far more Stein voters who would’ve otherwise voted for Kamala than Stein voters who otherwise would’ve voted for Trump. So long as one or both of these voter groups are significantly large (which can mean as few as ~81,000 votes in the right states, since that’s the margin of victory Biden had in 2020), Stein would serve as a significant spoiler for Harris.

Consider the effect that Ralph Nader’s 2000 presidential campaign had on the 2000 election.

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

It's literally 0. The entire country could vote unanimously for Stein and the electors could (and would) still just pick a winner from the two major parties.

[-] drbluefall@toast.ooo 0 points 1 month ago

Stein has been primarily campaigning on "Drop Kamala", bleeding democratic support away from Harris.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago

...Trick and? You cannot seriously expect the principled to support genocidal murderers.

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Please research the electoral college before you discuss US presidential elections online.

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