[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Same goes the other way around, and given that Russia is in a stronger position than the west, that's the scenario we should really be talking about. What happens when NATO gets shredded by Russia the same way their Ukrainian proxy. Will NATO just pack up and go home or escalate to use of nuclear weapons. Incidentally, US intentionally keeps an open posture on this.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

I'd be really insulted if I had a shred of respect for your opinion.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Western backed regime in Ukraine is literally kidnapping people off the streets and forcing them into fighting. Even mainstream western media admits this https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

What part of Russia is going to win this war are you struggling with?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

Given that Ukraine is losing so obviously that even western media admits it now, it's pretty clear that you're the one doing all the coping and seething here.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

Sure that's what it is

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

You made the claim little buddy, so go and find the primary source for your claim.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

You used so many words to say that you refuse to actually find and read the primary source that your whole argument is premised on. The fact that you don't see a problem with that says everything I need to know.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago

I feel seen

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago

Exact same thing that will happen if you pass aid to Ukraine, except less people will die.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago

Which raises the question of what exactly was this all for. Ukraine could have retained all of its original territory and sovereignty if it simply agreed to stay neutral and implement Minsk. Then Ukraine could've still retained most of its territory if the Istanbul agreement was allowed to go through. At each turn, NATO egged Ukraine on to fight, and in each case the situation got worse for Ukraine thanks to NATO involvement. Now, hundreds of thousands of people died, millions of others fled, large parts of the country have been destroyed, and there might not be an Ukraine left in the end. This war has completely discredited NATO in my opinion.

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