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Nintendo's lawsuit against Palworld isn't just bad for the industry, it's bad for Nintendo (www.pcgamer.com)

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[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

There is not enough information to have a take on it. That is his point.

The total amount of information out is:

A filing has been made.
They are claiming patent infringement.

That is literally it.

[+] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -28 points 1 month ago

I would argue we do have enough information to have a take on it. What legitimate patent infringement case do you see in context of Palworld and Nintendo's products? Be clear and specific.

If you're going to call for a ban on commentary, you need to have some of argument.

From my perspective, it is crazy to defend some random corporation in this way when you can't even come up with a basic explanation of why critical commentary is not justified at this stage.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

What legitimate patent infringement case do you see in context of Palworld and Nintendo's products? Be clear and specific.

Without going through all of their patent filings no one can. So again, that is the point. Lack of info

If you're going to call for a ban on commentary, you need to have some of argument.

Never said a ban on commentary, just hate bullshit articles.

From my perspective, it is crazy to defend some random corporation

Something I agree with you on. Let them fight. This discussion is in the context of bullshit articles with zero information.

[+] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -23 points 1 month ago

Without going through all of their patent filings no one can. So again, that is the point. Lack of info

We are both gamers (I am assuming this is true for you since you're commenting here). I am not talking about legal understanding of Japanese patent law. Just a practical evaluation of Palworld vis-a-vis Nintendo products. What genuine technical innovation (I am not talking about bullshit patents for stuff that was implemented many decades ago) do you see in Nintendo's products that was copied by Palworld?

This is not difficult.

Never said a ban on commentary, just hate bullshit articles.

The implication of thread OP was that articles critical of Nintendo (in the context of this case) should not be published as of today, no? Why is any commentary immediately categorized as "greedy clickbait" or "rehashed content"?

Something I agree with you on. Let them fight. This discussion is in the context of bullshit articles with zero information.

I would argue it's not a bullshit article as I have yet to hear a single example of what legitimate (in the real sense, not related to Japanese patent law) case Nintendo has. What is this magical innovation that we see in Nintendo products that was copied by Palworld?

[-] missingno@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago

I am not talking about legal understanding of Japanese patent law.

But that's what the case is about.

I would argue it's not a bullshit article as I have yet to hear a single example of what legitimate (in the real sense, not related to Japanese patent law) case Nintendo has.

Well then the fact that we still don't know what the case is really about is exactly why these articles are useless. No information in there.

[+] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What is your argument here? Your support the Japanese patent law irrespective of whether it reflects reality? You would be OK with Japanese patent that is de facto non-valid (i.e. the approach was already used in games 10+ years ago) just to support a random company?

I am going off memory, but one example would be one of the Japanese gaming companies patenting cross-game saves (release to sequel); an approach that was implemented by the Ultima games 10+ years before the patent was filled? Do you support this?

We have access to Palworld, we have access to Nintendo products. If commentary criticizing Nintendo is "greedy clickbait", then what innovation has been abused by Palworld? Can you provide an example in context of gaming experiences?

[-] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

They just think the article sucks, which it does lmao

It's not that deep, dude

[-] missingno@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Let's go back to the start of this comment thread:

I love how this continues to crank out articles with 0 information and everyone speculating what it might be about.

Don't get me wrong, Nintendo are dickheads, but you can clearly see how everyone greedily clicks on these articles considering how often they get rehashed.

That's the argument: these articles add nothing to the discussion. And you responding to that with "but can you prove Nintendo is right?" isn't the point and also isn't adding anything to the discussion.