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[-] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 month ago

Consumers are collectively to blame. We need to deal with personal inconveniences en mass and Make difficult life changes like not driving whenever possible, not eating meat, not buying new products, repairing and sharing. The corporations only survive at the hand of the consumer.

[-] DrFuggles@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

I really can't tell if you're serious or not.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

They're serious and oblivious.

[-] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's delusional for people to think we can just keep going on business as usual and wish for magic that the billionaires, politicians and corporations will fix the issues we've all collectively brought upon ourselves. We have to take action from the bottom up

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

You're so close to getting it!

We need to make politicians and corporations fix the issues.

It's delusional to think people consuming less is going to magically make the free market more responsible. Like Apple sales are going to plummet and they'll just say, "great, we won't make as many phones" instead of making worse products that become obsolete even faster to make up the sales. What's the free market responsible end goal? No one has phones? No one has computers? Because it's really easy for these companies to brick your devices just with software.

And do we then just have to submit to these corporations? Obviously, no. We need to force them to adhere to rules making our products longer lasting, with better support, without punishing people for not buying new.

"Personal responsibility" is propaganda of the ruling class that refuses to be held accountable. These are global forces creating global crises.

[-] eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

That's nice but voluntary suicide is difficult to sell at scale.

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