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Anything that you think is unpopular about balance, story, or just any changes you would like to see

Personally my biggest one might not even be controversial, but I don't like shield gating being used as a primary method of survivability and I don't like seeing people recommend it to new players when they reach the point where staying alive is a concern. I know it's "optimal" for some frames but just feels cheesy to me.

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[-] SabreWalrus@dormi.zone 8 points 1 year ago

My counter-take to yours = I find shield gating builds incredibly fun and love using/playing them. They bring together everything that is best about the game, combining the movement system and soft/hard crowd control into a speedy "can't touch this" playstyle

My otherwise hot take, is that in the current modern state of the game, the ever-enduring advice to newbies of "Get Rhino and Hek" is extremely boring, outdated, and unhelpful

[-] Selkie210@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I do think the push for telling noobs to play Rhino does have the issue of becoming a crutch, instead of learning how to dodge and stay alive they get used to invincibility and have to learn way later

[-] SabreWalrus@dormi.zone 7 points 1 year ago

The Iron Skin is definitely a part of it, but it's also because the advice is too narrow/specific and makes a huge assumption about the interests or ability of the newbie. Of all the new players I've helped in the game, either real life friends/family who I convinced to play, or newbies I met organically while playing, absolutely none of them enjoy playing Rhino and very few of them enjoy shotguns. If I had been insistent that they must get this one frame and weapon because it was their "best" choice, they probably would've stopped playing

I think it's much better to ask people what their preferred playstyles are, and point them towards a few suitable options so they can decide for themselves. And it's very important now to make new players aware of the Circuit, so they can keep an eye on the 3 cycling frames and grab something they like the look of that may be locked quite a bit further back in the starchart otherwise

[-] Selkie210@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That's a smart way to go about it. I love shotguns and tanking, but when I helped out a buddy starting out he couldn't stand Rhino. I've talked about circuit in another post, it really helps out the new player experience I think, just due to the accessibility of it and getting new frames.

I appreciate your well thought out reply on this too, thank you

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