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Israeli forces shoot at UN peacekeepers in Lebanon, wounding two
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Hamas tried immediately to trade the Israeli hostages for hostages the Israelis are holding, without charge, withour trail, indefinitely. israel said no. But no one ever wants to talk about the hostages the Israelis took before Oct 7. They want to pretend this started on Oct 7.
Yeah they traded for Yahya Sinwar in a previous deal. You know, the guy that planned October 7 and is now the leader of Hamas.
Sure, it didn't begin on October 7. And it also didn't begin with the next time Israel does an air strike. Or the next time. Or the time after that.
Palestinians are dying and you're rooting for a continuation of violence indefinitely. You obviously don't care about Palestinian lives because you don't want the conflict to end even while Hamas and Hezbollah are losing badly and are only getting anyone that happens to be near them killed.
and you're making things up out of thin air and being utterly wrong about your fantasy conclusions. Its like arguing with a republican.
You're no longer considering any facts that challenge the narratives you get directly from social media and dubious "news" sources. You probably hate Democrats, probably look the other way about any antisemitic remarks from your peers. Also look the other way about atrocities committed by the fascists that are "on your side".
The pro-Palestinian movement (really the anti-Israeli movement, if we're being honest) is an alt-right movement if we're being objective about comparing it to other political movements. Really how is this movement any different from any of the other alt-right movements? Only because you don't call yourself alt-right?
Spacecowboy@ You said:
You do realize netenyahu aligns himself with far right leaders and Israel has a far right government. Dont you? And that Palestine protestors are almost uniformly progressives, on the far other end of the political extreme from the far right? https://www.timesofisrael.com/yair-netanyahu-exposes-israels-own-version-of-the-alt-right/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/24/why-benjamin-netanyahu-loves-the-european-far-right-orban-kaczynski-pis-fidesz-visegrad-likud-antisemitism-hungary-poland-illiberalism/
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1241022402/a-look-into-the-rise-of-right-wing-israel
It seems that you dont understand what the term alt-right even means. Its a far right white nationalist movement.
And you make up a lot of "probablies" out of thin air, which sure looks like mental illness to me.
Blaming others for exactly what you are guilty of is a classic republican move. Again with this from you. It gets old.
Or do you really honestly think palestinians and their supporters are part of a white nationalist movement? How does that make any sense at all? The "white" people here are Israelis. Palestinians and Arabs dont consider themselves to be white. But part of the alt right you say, interesting. Are these nonwhite members of the alt-right.. hating themselves? And by your reckoning, the far right Israels are the victims of the alt right? ?? really? So its alt-right human rights supporters vs the far right Israelis? Is this some kind of rightwing civil war? You'd think they could get along being so closely ideologically aligned.
Your assertions are all just so remarkably crazy that I dont even know what to say. But I think its past time for me to block your username.
You realize that Hamas is a fascist organization. Don't you?
Fascism isn't actually about specific ethnicities. It isn't even about being specifically antisemitic, though Hamas most definitely has that going on.
Fascism is about promoting strongman to protect people from the other, the other usually being of a different ethnicity and/or religious group. The other is paradoxically both strong and weak. It's about promoting a return to a past ethnic makeup of a region to how it was in the history book, ie. blood and soil. It's about using past humiliations to entice people into accepting the strongman as their leader. It's about de-legitimizing democracy and the free press. It's about using violence to achieve these goals, including the use of ethnic cleansing and genocide. It's about maintaining a violent fervour and a hatred towards the enemy so people don't question the strongman's leadership.
Hamas fits this description. If you're in the same movement as Hamas, you're at best alt-right, or at worst a fascist. I know among your fringe group you don't talk about yourselves that way and will put on blinders to avoid seeing Hamas for what it is. But people outside of your little group actually do see Hamas for what it is and see you for who you are.
If you could stop subjecting yourself to imagery meant to keep you in a violent fervour for even a few days you might begin to question the leadership of the strongman Yahya Sinwar which has resulted in the destruction of Gaza. But you probably won't do that because you're stuck in an endless emotional manipulation loop. And that's exactly how fascism works.