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You want a protocol that will build physical last-mile connections to peoples' houses?
What about avian carriers?
Well the birds still have to link to the main network somewhere to exchange packets... which I assume would still be an ISP, unless all you want is local mesh networking.
I just woke up everyone in my house with a giggle fit thanks to you. Yes weed is involved.
That was amazing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah
what point are you trying to make?
So most of the last mile.
If we try to have cable or telcos do last-mile they'll fuck us as hard as they possibly can, make laws guaranteeing themselves a permanent monopoly, etc.
We need wireless as a backup just to keep those worthless fuckers honest, then we can do a hybrid model with some scattered fiber ONTs terminating into wifi nodes.
What we really need is to string fiber on the power lines, but the telcos and comcast pay the power companies extra to stop that too.
Break the monopoly power and this all comes tumbling down.
“And then we can do a hybrid model” congratulations you just invented an ISP.
“Then we’ll string wires on poles” congratulations you just invented an ISP again.
Actually, you've invented a cooperative.
Actually, you've just made internet access a utility.
Seriously, you seem really oblivious, the issue isn't technology, we basically have magic at this point, the issue is breaking the economic model.
Ok, I still don’t understand how you’ve magically invented access to the Internet Protocol network, but without an Internet Service Provider. Yes, I’ve taken direct action to enable the creation of several WISP networks in the communities I care about. Can you come up with more useless strawmen or do you just want to keep feeling special?
Edit: upon further review it seems like you think infrastructure just magically maintains itself???
This commoditizes wisps, they aren't only in places with LoS, or with special hardware, while still using unlicensed band.
And megaisps have 2 barriers that preserve their market position:
Capital costs
Right of way access they got mostly in the 70s and 80s if not from the original bell rollout
And weren't you the one who particularly said 'last mile'? That's exactly what this is.
Someone will still have to install and maintain the wireless access points, physically link them to the local network trunk and negotiate for service with the backbone provider... which would just be an ISP, who would sell you access to the WiFi system like a cellular provider.
This isn't a problem that can be solved with technology. Monopolies have to be fixed with government oversight.