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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

r/Piracy on Reddit is more of a meme subreddit. I've never seen any actual discussion or valuable information as I do on this community. Why is that?

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[-] 312@lemm.ee 215 points 1 year ago

It's the pendulum swing of pretty much every community on Reddit.

  • Community starts out with a small group of users dedicated to quality content related to the topic
  • Community growth reaches a point where the most popular posts begin to trend outside of the community
  • New users join the community after seeing popular posts show up in their own feeds. Growth accelerates
  • Community becomes "popular" enough that posts regularly trend outside of the community
  • New users flood in
  • Users flood the community with low-effort content to karma farm
  • Community now sucks.

It happened to basically every big sub on Reddit once reaching a large enough size.

[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 80 points 1 year ago

Yeah! And it helps that there is no karma here. We just give a hoot about preservation and sharing. :)

[-] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml 45 points 1 year ago

Even though it's meaningless I have seen some people in different communities voting down comments and posts they don't agree with like on Reddit which is unfortunate.

For the piracy community I hope it doesn't just turn into passive aggressive comments directing people to the megathread all the time.

I like helping people dig for obscure stuff

[-] Itshaysus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Sooo using the downvoted button for its intended use? I’ll never understand why people get mad when they use the dislike button for stuff they dislike lol

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's for what you don't "like" but whether it was correct or relevant to the topic. So upvotes push important and relevant info forward. But I could be wrong.

[-] skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you're right according to official reddiquette. the intended use of the downvote button is to de-emphasize irrelevant content and content that otherwise doesn't contribute to the conversation

i have seen it argued that its intended use use doesn't matter versus how the majority of people actively use it, similar to language and symbols. usage evolves with time, so meaning evolves with it. personally i prefer the intended usage but i can see where ppl who make this argument are coming from.

the lemmy instance i joined doesn't have a downvote button at all!

edit: here's the official reddiquette archived on the wayback machine

In regard to voting:

Think before you downvote and take a moment to ensure you're downvoting someone because they are not contributing to the community dialogue or discussion. If you simply take a moment to stop, think and examine your reasons for downvoting, rather than doing so out of an emotional reaction, you will ensure that your downvotes are given for good reasons.

[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Your average reddit user stopped reading at the words "take a moment". Sad, but true.

[-] skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

tbh, i'd be surprised if most people ever even bothered to even open the reddiquette or terms of service or anything else. i'm not trying to put anyone down or be condescending -- i didn't read any of this when signing up either! i only knew about it because i read discussions about how votes should be used on reddit lol

it's true, most people are lazy and don't read and intuitively assume the downvote button is a dislike button. it's unfortunate, but i don't know if anything can reasonably be done about stuff like that because i don't think it's going to change that people don't read agreements or rules or guidelines before using a platform or program or service.

[-] Quinnel@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Original function and concept was to use the downvote exclusively as a spam filter. There's a reason those "I only work 5 hours a week and make 6 figures" posts you see on Instagram never happened on Reddit. They all got buried and hidden at the bottom

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's for what you don't "like" but whether it was correct or relevant to the topic. So upvotes push important and relevant info forward. But I could be wrong.

[-] kwot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I know what you’re saying, but I feel like it does both tbh

[-] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Don't you think things might become muddled if it serves both purposes? How often do you see people on Reddit admitting they were wrong or compromising versus arguing and when one side concedes just downvoting the other persons comments?

On a sidenote one thing that bugged me about Reddit was people making a comment that agreed with another comment but added nothing but still getting up votes because people agree with it. For example "This" with nothing else.

[-] kwot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Think a large part of it is context driven and what kind of community it is. I know in more serious threads, more helpful information was usually upvoted. But I get you, Reddit (the default subreddits especially) got too big for its own good and became the muddied groupthink mess it is today, and I definitely agree that those kinds of comments add nothing to a discussion. I suppose one kind of solution here would be to implement the boosting system like they have at kbin and have that as some "helpful/insightful" button, but I don't think people in general would agree to one standard just like that. They're more likely going to keep doing what they're used to, and that's the voting system. Not sure how to really tackle the problem myself 😅

[-] rlhe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Def agree a boost button would make more sense and makes the intended purpose clear. At the end of the day I really only care that useful and insightful comments float up to the top.

[-] ralC@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

If you go to a subreddit without custom css on old.reddit and hover over the downvote button you'll be told to only use it for things that "don't add to the discussion".

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