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You always hear the phase “9 to 5” and also the song with the same name. Assuming you include 1 hour worth of breaks (30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks), you’re only working for 7 hours a day which comes up to 35 hours a week.

Now it feels like you have to work 8 hours a day (for a total of 40 hours of actual work), plus your other time off meaning you’re really there for 9 hours each day (for a total of 45 hours). Am i looking at that wrong, or did expected times change, and if so, when?

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 54 points 10 hours ago

You're thinking small-time, like an hourly worker. Good office jobs are generally salaried positions and the idea of clocking in and out is... not a thing. Some days you work more, some less, whatever needs to be done. The idea of 9-5 is just a general time frame. And no one gives a shit when you lunch or break. In a real profession the yardstick is, are you getting it done or not?

I'll catch grief for saying that, so I'll preempt by saying, if your job isn't like that, you likely have a shit job.

[-] radroot@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Gentle reminder that without "small time", hourly workers doing real labor your easy, sweatless, office job would disappear overnight. Perhaps some gratitude? Maybe even some solidarity?

As a former IT professional turned baker, I dislike the condescending attitude too many white collar workers have toward the actual wheel turners of the world.

[-] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago

Me laughing in salaried 9-5 with clock in and clock out. Pay deduction if i forget to do clock in or out even if everyone know i work that day. Got paid 50% less than people who did the same job same position who didn't need to clock in/out.

I have a shit job and the only thing that keep me going is the job close to where i and my family live so i can check on my sister (found out that she do self harm once and I'm scared to go faraway from her ever since).

Desperate people make a good cheap employee.

[-] Eiri@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I have a salaried position. I don't clock in. But it's typically only used to deny us overtime pay. If I work 35 hours a week, I'm paid 12.5% less than my colleagues who do 40. And if my lunch break is too long, I'm expected to stay late sometime within the month to compensate.

And while I do have a shit job (save me) I've never seen someone whose employer didn't mind their hours as long as they got shit done.

[-] JamesFire@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

You cannot be salaried and deducted hours you don't work.

Either you are hourly, and paid for the hours you actually work, or you're salaried, and paid regardless of how many hours you work.

What your employer is doing is illegal, and wage theft.

[-] Solemn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago

You're not an exempt (salaried) employee if they deduct your pay for working less in a given week. I've never had an employer who cared about hours as long as work got done.

[-] oozynozh@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

As others have said, I'm in the "put time in, get shit done" camp.

Provided I deliver a job well done, my bosses don't give a fuck what or how many hours I clock per week.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

Mine doesn't give a fuck how long we work.

[-] noseatbelt@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

I used to work at an engineering firm and one day I saw one of the engineers leave at like 2pm on a Wednesday and he was like, "Bye, see you next week!" He had been busting his ass to finish a project and already hit his 40hrs for the week.

I was a temp at the time but needless to say, I jumped at the chance when they offered me a real job.

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