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[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

all I can do is try and help by telling her what will get mine and apparently other votes.

Are you doing the legwork of telling her directly?

the past shows the democrats run to the right and lose.

You must be looking at a different past than the rest of us.

I've only made a single claim on how others will act

Your entire premise is that your choice will cause a candidate to alter their behavior

my vote is here for the taking. its a shame she couldn't check a single box on my list.

I'd wager she checks quite a lot of them, when considering the alternative. Status quo is not ideal, but it is better than marked backsliding, which is what you're gambling.

trump wont be able to take them away by himself

Uh, yeah. The entire problem is that there is a broadly successful campaign to install federalist cronies across as many seats as possible. Supreme Court, lower courts, EPA, USPS, DoE, everything. They published it. He's not by himself.

more important to me than the 40k people already murdered and million + put at risk by the biden admin inability to have a spine.

Which is different than the entire history of the state of Israel how? Your alternatives are an unbroken trend of spineless opposition, and enthusiastic support. I do not consider enthusiastic support to be an acceptable risk in my electoral stratagems.

sorry but the deaths are the greater evil.

The deaths will not decrease under the alternative evil, in fact they will most certainly increase under the other evil. That would by embarrassingly simple logic make that alternative the greater evil, and the evil in question the lesser evil. Who was it that just said Biden was being too tough on Bibi?

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago

Are you doing the legwork of telling her directly?

yes, every person in my congressional animal pen knows where i stand and that they should pressure her. harris has no personal interest in my vote since she will comfortably win in my state. however my critters know i'm watching them and my friend circle has done the same.

let me be clear here: I have a laundry list of issues with harris' platform. there is literally nothing on there that I can about directly:

  • no health care reform (reducing means testing for medicare/single payer/reducing costs etc)
  • no labor reform (mandatory PTO/sick leave/minimum wage increases/non-compete removal, etc)
  • no commitment to keeping khan as head of FTC.
  • and is willing to genocide a minority group.

my ask from harris is to commit to doing the one thing she can 100% do herself as a president and thats commit to israel's safety while preventing from them genociding. if that requires giving israel a small bloody nose by not protecting them in the UN and stopping arms shipments. fine and many jews in the US agree on this.

Im telling people vote with their conscience on harris, why? because it'll get them to the poll booth, jill/claudia might get their vote instead of harris but know what else? the down ballot democrats are more likely to get their vote. thats more important than trump/harris. if trump wins but democrats get the majority in both houses and we keep them we'll be fine.

You must be looking at a different past than the rest of us.

na just have a different slant. most of the time the democrats run on shitty positions like anti-gun and border nonsense. but ignore things like labor rights, healthcare, and education, and the economy. thats why they lose.

Your entire premise is that your choice will cause a candidate to alter their behavior

yes, because thats how voting works, and why my state is literally a single party state.

I’d wager she checks quite a lot of them, when considering the alternative. Status quo is not ideal, but it is better than marked backsliding, which is what you’re gambling.

no, thats what all of you're are gambling, including harris, you'll vote for her because shes not trump. she has your vote. know what votes she doesn't have? the 100k in michigan whose friends and family are being genocided by her policies.

Which is different than the entire history of the state of Israel how? Your alternatives are an unbroken trend of spineless opposition, and enthusiastic support. I do not consider enthusiastic support to be an acceptable risk in my electoral stratagems.

what the fuck are you going on about? lol no one is saying abandon the jews, just stop giving them weapons until they stop being literally genocidal morons over there. you know, follow our fucking laws on arm sales.

The deaths will not decrease under the alternative evil, in fact they will most certainly increase under the other evil.

you have no idea what evil is. the fact you are trying to brow beat people over a person willing to throw a minority group under the genocidal bus is mind boggling considering all the evil you're talking about is literally a bunch of minority groups whom have been thrown under various busses. now I have to wonder which other ones will she through under the bus of joy and alleged law and order.

As I said, call your congress critters, demand they stop arms to israel and that they pressure harris and then vote with your heart on election day. if thats jill/claudia/harris it doesn't matter. I'm more interested in getting people to the booths for all the local and down ballot issues.

now if you don't support protecting the palestenians and think israel should be slaughtering them then thats on you and you're far more evil than any person voting 3rd party. I'm just happy they voted regardless of their feelings on harris.

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