168
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2024
168 points (97.2% liked)
Interesting Global News
2564 readers
473 users here now
What is global news?
Something that happened or was uncovered recently anywhere in the world. It doesn't have to have global implications. Just has to be informative in some way.
Post guidelines
Title format
Post title should mirror the news source title.
URL format
Post URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
[Opinion] prefix
Opinion (op-ed) articles must use [Opinion] prefix before the title.
Rules
1. English only
Title and associated content has to be in English.
2. No social media posts
Avoid all social media posts. Try searching for a source that has a written article or transcription on the subject.
3. Respectful communication
All communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. Inclusivity
Everyone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacks
Any kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangents
Stay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may apply
If something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.
Companion communities
- !legalnews@lemmy.zip - International and local legal news.
- !technology@lemmy.zip - Technology, social media platforms, informational technologies and tech policy.
- !interestingshare@lemmy.zip - Interesting articles, projects, and research that doesn't fit the definition of news.
Icon attribution | Banner attribution
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
That story is incredibly disturbing....
Only one 11-year-old girl in an entire class did not have a smartphone...?
How long has smartphone ownership and normalized for that age? What did they first get them?
That's got to be wreaking havoc on their developing minds....to say nothing of their social development.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, go long on pharma.
Just because a kid has a phone, it doesn't necessarily mean they have full access to it. My daughter has had her own phone since she was 3 years old, she is now 8 and still rarely gets access to her phone - maybe an hour a week on Saturday mornings or if we're going on a long drive. There's never any fights when she has to put it away, and she's learning good device usage habits.
Off topic, but it's very funny to me that you think you have full access to your phone.
I mean, I have a Pixel 9 Pro running Graphene, but sure this isn't like my Pine phone (which is fun to pay with but a slog as a daily driver).
Better than most, privacy wise. Better than me, especially the pine phone (again, privacy wise). But still not solely your phone. The pine phone might be. You are on the right way though!
For anyone wondering what the crazy person on the internet (me) is hinting at, even with the pine phone.
You know what they fuckin meant, ya dweeb.
Yeah
I'm unclear how your comment relates to the article, or my comment. Because even if I took you at your word, your anecdotal story would still seem to place you as an outlier, maybe.
Clearly an entire class of preteens, minus one girl, has full access to their smartphones, and I'm betting at least a portion of them had just as much access when they were 8 years old.
Also, not for nothing, but you might want to consider the possibility that a child's usage and behaviors on a smart device might change once it becomes an unsupervised activity. Or maybe it won't, I don't know you or your child, so who am I to say.
I was providing context to your question about how long it's been normalized and when kids get their first phones.
And yes, as a parent I know that I won't be able to control everything my kid does as she ages, however I think by creating good habits and setting healthy boundaries it will help her make the right choices later in life.
I need your notes. My daughter is 2.5. I would appreciate if you can share your experience, how is it working, how you set the rules of engagement, etc.
I think it started with TV being regulated. At first we were strict about only giving her access to 'educational' shows, so a lot of PBS Kids shows like Daniel Tiger, but we also did YouTube channels like Super Simple Songs. We avoided anything too commercialized or designed to sell toys (Paw Patrol), but that caused issues when she went to preschool and didn't know any of the shows and characters the other kids knew, so we relaxed a little, but treated Paw Patrol as a treat (she'd be limited to 30 minutes of it, but could then switch to something on PBS). And even PBS screen time was limited to certain times of the day. It never really became an issue because she never knew any other way.
For the phone, a few years ago on Google Fi it was actually the same price to have 3 lines as it was to have 2 lines, and I had an extra phone and so it just made sense to activate it so she had a phone to use in the car while we took a 12 hour car ride. It worked really well, and she knew that 'her phone' would always go right back in my pocket when she wasn't using it. We also got her some Bluetooth headphones and we've taught her that her phone should not make any sound that anyone else can hear when we're in public. We're trying to find that balance between making sure she has the skills needed to use technology, but also doesn't become dependent on it like the rest of us are. I'm not sure it will work in the long-term, but I do know that my family won't be the ones behind you in a restaurant with the kid playing a loud game on her phone.
On the one hand, the grumpy old man in me agrees completely.
On the other, they've been saying this for all of history, since that new-fangled writing wreaked havoc on our ancestors' children's memories. And it did in fact do that, but we changed.
Attention span is just going to become vestigial in the general population as it becomes less necessary in an evolving technological and sociological environment, just like memory and penmanship.
You might want to take a look at this: https://jonathanhaidt.com/anxious-generation/
I'm sorry but not going to trust an author who has a very real financial incentive to sell a hypothesis. There are indeed numerous studies that do summarize the negative impacts of social media and smartphones on mental health, and it's also extremely true that the increase in mental health diagnosis can also, at least partially, be attributed to an increase in mental health awareness. My ADHD existed well before I got my hands on tech.
EDIT: to summarize, I don't really take issue with your comment, but I believe that you can find an even better source of information to link to when discussing this topic. Wishing you well!
Shame. He's a very good author
Yeah it's not really up for debate, the science is only growing more conclusive on how smartphones negatively impact a developing brain, especially social media.
Also, attention span is not vestigial... It's pretty important function of your brain, and can't just be replaced by technology....but I was more referring to anxiety and depression disorders, which again, are on the rise.
I'm also kind of confused why you included penmanship in there, as that is not something a child's development requires to be healthy. It's simply a skill, and one that has been replaced by typing, almost 1:1.
Once upon a time people argued penmanship was crucial to building a well developed brain. Same with memorizing epics by rote. Books were actually considered bad for students because they would become dull and lazy if they did not commit all their knowledge to memory.
But memory can largely be replaced by technology, and that enables access to more knowledge than one person could ever memorize. Who knows how society will develop, for better or worse.
yes but in order to effectively use technology to replace memory you still have to commit things to memory. if I don't know something exists then how can I Google it?
Attention isn't eliminated by smartphones, just shortened