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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

They are native to the region. The prevailing theory derived from genetic testing best estimates Levantine Arab descendants and before that Canaanite. It also shows their genetics are consistent with the other natives in the region, meaning they came from there. But dont let facts split your hate.

[-] Moops@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Do the Jewish people have any genetic history linking them there too?

(I'm not pro Israel, nor am I setting up an argument. I don't know and am genuinely curious)

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mizrahi and a lot of other native Jewish people do. Including Palestinians, who are mostly Jewish genetically even if most no longer practice the religion.

Ashkenazi, aka most European/white Jews do not have any real genetic heritage in the region, being mostly made up of converts with exceedingly small amounts of the original families that went north. Ashkenazis are what most Jewish Zionists are; which im sure is just coincidence.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 1 week ago

Yes, there were claims that the Romans forced all the Jews out of Judea but evidence indicates it was relatively small groups.

What actually happened was conversion under the Caliphates after the Arab conquests.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That I dont know. I do know that due to Judaism being a religion, that has caused more mixing in their genetics with groups from other regions. From the same Wikipedia source it basically says their genetics are more fanned out depending on the diaspora.

[-] Moops@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh yeah, good and interesting point. It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

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