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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think you can end up anywhere good by bargaining with genocide. "Sucks" doesn't even come close to describing such a system. The order of operations you're talking about sounds to me like: 1- elect the more decorous monster 2- go back to ignoring all the suffering. I'll definitely agree that it's depressing, but it doesn't require any foreign propaganda to be that.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for saying this. If we keep choosing the 'lesser of two evils', we just keep allowing things to get worse, albeit more slowly.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

So you admit that the options are literally "get worse slowly" or "burn it all," and you would rather see everyone suffer? Cool. No wonder everyone loves far-leftists.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

I would rather not see innocent people die.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

And you actually believe that not participating pushes towards that goal? Or can we live in reality and admit that it just makes you feel better while having the opposite effect?

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago

And you actually believe that not participating pushes towards that goal?

Not participating in a system which murders the innocent is, indeed, the moral choice.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Prevent fewer deaths or witness more deaths. Not participating is a choice but still a choice at the end of the day with blood still on your hands. So get the fuck off your high horse.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not participating is a choice

Yes, I agree, not participating in killing innocent people is a choice. It's also the only choice.

The interactions I've had with people labelling themselves as 'progressive' have tended towards being negative. What do you want to progress towards? A world built on sacrificing innocent people, I imagine?

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I want fewer people to die, but people like you believe that your feelings matter more than their lives. Of course your interactions with people like me have been negative: you're fighting for death through inaction.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

but people like you believe that your feelings matter more than their lives

I believe the lives of the people being killed matter.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

So you're ensuring that it happens faster? Weird flex, but OK.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

So you’re ensuring that it happens faster?

How so?

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not participating is still contributing to the genocide, champ. Hence still having blood on your hands.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago

No wonder everyone loves far-leftists.

Everyone loves civilians in the Middle East too, so much they send them explosive gifts.

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