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Should Climate Protesters Be Less Annoying?
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this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2023
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I support most (maybe even all) climate protests, violent and nonviolent ones.
I still think that it might be good to shift or expand(edit) tactics, because at least to me most tactics do not feel to be actually achieving any substantial goals while putting folks at high risk of injury and repression. Like yeah there is discourse, polarization and mobilization, but those are not actually the things that will mitigate climate change, reducing carbon emissions etc. will. This is my perspective from Germany so of course elsewhere things might be different.
Are there any success stories from other countries (or Germany) that show that currently dominant climate protest tactics(non violence, blocking roads, public stunts, glue everywhere, social media all the time) leading to actual changes getting implemented from public institutions, legislation or the private sector or changes in the behaviors of large parts of the population?___
Well not about climate, but if you take at the Stop de Kindermoord movement, that happened in the 1970s in the Netherlands, you can find some similarities: https://www.ejatlas.org/print/stop-de-kindermoord-stop-the-child-murder-protest-for-children-deaths-caused-by-motor-vehicles Blocking streets was one of their protest forms, too. And now take a look at the Dutch cities - it's a pain to drive a car, while walking and cycling are far superior modes of transportation, while there is real life happening. And that's not even only true for Amsterdam, but also for relatively small cities like Groningen
Blocking streets is directly connected to the issue. It's a sensible protest.
Gluing yourself to paintings just makes environmentalists look like idiots. It's doing a disservice to actual environmentalists who protest the companies causing the problems.
Well it's not like cars (and especially the recent developments in terms of size and number) are not part of the climate issue... Afaik they dodged the paintings some time ago, haven't they? Last things I heard from their protest forms were blocked airports, streets and gulf clubs - all are related to the climate
If they dodged the paintings then good. Blocking airports and roads is totally related to the climate crisis. When they block roads they're making a coherent point.