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[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not just to turn Republicans, but to depress the Republican vote. Speculation here, but I think it's reasonable to bet there's a large number of Christian Republican voters who will never vote for Harris but aren't motivated enough to vote for Trump...unless Harris condemns Israel. If Harris gains 2% Dem votes from never-genocide lefties but Trump gets 5% votes from Israel-to-the-max Christians, she loses.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just really happy you responded with this, so thank you.

Posterity, when you are looking back on this, the comment above is the kind of wack-a-doodle, baseless, hopium, purely speculative, completely devoid of evidence kind of thinking people were using to defend Kamalas' obvious failures as a candidate.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Tactics in first past the post democracies is indeed whackadoodle, but that's the system we live in.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm all about tactics, but I'm all about evidence as well. If you can provide some data, some evidence that what your saying has merit, I'm more than happy to discuss.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's a complicated one. I think we can agree that in general, Republicans support Israel and don't believe that Israel bears any responsibility for their genocide in Gaza, and largely either don't believe there's a genocide happening or are perfectly happy that it is happening.

Here's an article from back in July where Republican leaders (not voters) condemn Harris for expressing sympathy for Palestinian civilian deaths: https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/republican-rhetoric-on-harris-position-on-israel-goes-too-far/

About 30% of Republicans want the US to pull back on ceasefire negotiations: https://www.newsweek.com/poll-democrats-republicans-divided-israel-role-war-escalation-1977027

Trump is absolutely courting Jewish Republicans: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-09-05/trump-harris-israel-gaza-hamas-hostages

But I can't find any specific poll numbers asking Republicans "would you be more likely to vote for Trump if Harris denounces Israel?" So I don't have any hard data, just informed guesses.

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