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Trump files first election lawsuit in chilling sign of what’s to come
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"Gish Gallop."
It's a debate technique. You overwhelm the opposition with an endless stream of half truths, exaggeration's, lies, and tangents that make it impossible for them to get their point across.
Bannon during Trump's term referred to this as "flood the zone with shit". Essentially just putting out such a large volume of nonsense that people just give up, you break their will to vote/argue/oppose you/fight back/correct the record.
Bannon is clearly advising Trump again, now that he’s out of jail.
I see he's applying for a second term them.
He’s already waiting for another trial regarding defrauding people about funding the wall between the US and Mexico.
Oh no, that poor dude. Anyway.
The thing that sucks is that it's so effective. It literally lead to Biden dropping out of the race. Trump spewed a bunch of bullshit really fast in their debate and Biden just froze up because it was so much.
I liked how Kamala handled it in their debate by basically saying "Look, I told you this guy was going to spout a bunch of nonsense." You've gotta call out the technique when you see it.
I didn't watch the Biden debate, did the moderators fact-check?
Barely. It's almost impossible to fact check against the gish gallop technique, because Trump just spits out a dozen lies a minute.
You just call it for what it is, bullshit. Just call it out right there. "You may Gish Gallop as much as you wish, but I am going to talk policy to the people." Its fucken crazy anyone entertains that sewage.
Yeah that's basically what Harris did during the debate. It was great!
Trump made Biden scream “we beat Medicare” over and over? Biden didn’t face pressure to step down because he “froze up.” Don’t believe your lying eyes, I guess?
I legitimately can’t imagine why anyone would think the election would be going better right now if Biden hadn’t stepped down.
He didn't "scream" it, and he said it one time, clearly tripping two thoughts together.
Whatever else you might think about him or what that says about him, at least get that much right, lying about him "screaming" that "over and over" does nothing to help your point
The clip I saw might have had a bad audio quality or something or I might just be misremembering, it sounded like yelling when I watched it the last time it was relevant (months ago, when he was still running). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Either way, pretending it didn't happen by way of downplaying it is ridiculous.
"I stated a patently false thing that can be easily refuted as a fact, but you... YOU are being ridiculous!"
That's you. That's what you sound like right now.
Sorry my obvious acknowledgment that my memory of the exact tone someone (who is no longer even a politics main character) used months ago could be faulty wasn’t good enough for you.
Doesn’t change that Biden said something obviously insane and had no idea how to recover from it on stage, or the incredibly obviously tepid enthusiasm voters had for a second Biden term, even in the face of a second Trump presidency.
We see Trump consistently make an outright lie, and in the same breath pivot to a personal attack such as “she’s a nasty woman.” This is another technique that adds something controversial after the lie so that the focus is on the controversial topic instead of the lie.
It makes it harder to peel what he says apart and puts space between the current point of conversation and the lie
The most fucked up thing is that Trump isn’t doing this necessarily intentionally. He’s just so crazy, that this is how his brain works.
Trump once said that his personality hasn't changed since was a child.
He talks like a little kid; words just spew out without any rhyme or reason.
I absolutely believe he is doing it intentionally. He will lie and promote violence any time he thinks it will help him do as he pleases or avoid consequences.
Yes, it’s in his very nature, but let’s be honest: he knows exactly what he’s doing
I just can’t believe that he’s that intelligent or in control of the things coming out of his mouth.
He can be a stupid, racist, sexist miser and evil at the same time. And there’s a 200% chance he’s not the smart one strategizing everything. He’s, as you say, not that smart. But smart enough to follow simple directions and regurgitate his hateful shit on cue.
He isn’t required to understand his behaviors in order to perform them. All his behaviors could have been shaped through early trial and error. Behaviors that got him a desired result became reinforced. He could’ve tried a lie+insult combo as a kid and got exactly what he wanted.
Repeated enough, the behavior could become second nature.
Its completely intentional. His supporters eat it up.
bruh. he's not nearly that intelligent.
He doesn’t have to be intelligent; he just has to be smarter than his voters. That’s the point
Sealioning is the layman’s unmoderated form. If you don’t let the other person speak or respond you always get to ‘win’.
It’s interesting how adversarial the nature of some people is.
Or a more modern and apropos term, "shit spewing".
Verbal diarrhea from Dysentery Donnie.
For more on all these tactics: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ