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submitted 13 hours ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net

Here's the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let's look at three scenarios:

Scenario 1:

Harris: 1001 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 0 votes

Harris wins


Scenario 2:

Harris: 1000 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 1 vote

Tied vote, which goes to the courts and Congress, putting Trump in power


Scenario 3:

Harris: 999 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 2 votes

Trump wins outright


This spoiler effect makes it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they're the ones funding the Green Party.

And that's why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get that what she's doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on environmental destruction.

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[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

The people who are Republicans

The majority of people who vote red or blue are simply picking a side they are not hard core fanatics.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Nah. In many places of the US you're told that it's your "identity". Kentucky, Tennessee, etc -- They are told from birth that they "ARE" Republicans. That it's a physical, tangible thing that identifies them. And yes - when they pick a side, it's based on their political leanings. Who leans closer to someone who's going to pick a republican candidate? Jill Stein, or Chase Oliver? -- the answer is Chase Oliver.

I'm sorry that you can't accept that you're wrong about the Jill Stein thing, but that's just simply how it be.

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