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submitted 13 hours ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net

Here's the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let's look at three scenarios:

Scenario 1:

Harris: 1001 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 0 votes

Harris wins


Scenario 2:

Harris: 1000 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 1 vote

Tied vote, which goes to the courts and Congress, putting Trump in power


Scenario 3:

Harris: 999 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 2 votes

Trump wins outright


This spoiler effect makes it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they're the ones funding the Green Party.

And that's why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get that what she's doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on environmental destruction.

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[-] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 hours ago

I agree that climate change is a global problem, but letting the one candidate who said “drill baby, drill,” got $75mil investments from Big Oil, has indicated he’d be a dictator, and has explicitly called climate change a hoax—we can just let him win, because surely he won’t put the boot upon the climate activists and suppress any effort to do anything meaningful about the climate?

Climate activists are already being beaten and arrested pretty much all around the world.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 10 hours ago

So, not going to answer the questions I asked you and just pretend it's going to be exactly the same under both candidates?

Is that your strategy? Are you a troll?

[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Or a non-US psyop agent, or a GOP supporter

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Yes, they are a troll.

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