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I’m an Environmentalist. That’s Why I Can’t Vote Green. | Award-winning filmmaker and director of Gasland Josh Fox on why he will never vote for Jill Stein. (www.thenation.com)
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[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago

Good.

The green party is not a party for good. Jill Stein has no intention of trying to further the supposed goals of the green party.

Their intention - admitted to, on microphone, at an event, by their own people - is purely to give trump the presidency.

The green party is dogshit.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

What??? When did that happen? Source?

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Weeks ago.

A quote from Sawant at the Stein rally:

We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic. We could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.

Edit: forgot to.drop some links for you. Here you go:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/10/09/abandon-harris-stein-michigan-arab-american-voters/75561456007/

In her own words, the so-called socialist who is hoping for a trump win: https://www.workersstrikeback.org/news-analysis/kshama-sawant-speech-10-15

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 weeks ago

So not Stein. I think your comment is worded somewhat misleadingly but alright.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not what I said.

I said by their own people on microphone at their own event. I think maybe you misread, its not at all misleading.

[-] technocat@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

It appears the group Abandon Harris has said these things, not the Green Party. Am I not understanding something?

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

She was the opener for Green at her MI rally.

She is part of it, at a Green event. Her being the founder of her own party that had a short stint as a city council member does not change who she was there for, both party and candidate.

[-] technocat@lemm.ee -3 points 2 weeks ago

Here is the actual Abandon Harris rally if people want to watch it:

To borrow the words of Michael Moore:

  • "They're [arabs] in horrible grief right now. And they're saddled with this awful predicament. And their conscious is not allowing them to put an 'X' next to the woman who has killed their family."
  • "Boy it takes a lot nerve for white people to say that they know better 'they don't understand that Trump's going to be a lot worse for the Arab Americans'... Shut the fuck up."
  • "These are people that have lost relatives. These are people that have lost members of their community. They've been killed by me. Not just Netanyahu. Our tax dollars pay for every god damn bullet and bomb. Every carpet bombing of Gaza you've funded it. I've funded it."
  • https://youtu.be/ow6jrG6ayJY
[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago
  • This was a Jill Stein rally
  • This speech was to intro Stein
  • This speech would have been reviewed, just like a certain comedian at MSG.
  • Stein agrees with and supports the speech tacitly

You're just apologizing for the Green Party while being OK with them working to get Trump in, who will literally ramp up the genocide.

Pure garbage.

[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net -3 points 2 weeks ago

So not Jill stein, and not an official in the green party. Further down there a quote from a kamala supporter that sums this up better:

"So she's in trouble in Michigan, and it's not because of Abandon Biden," Zogby said. "It's because Democrats abandoned Arab Americans. They stopped talking to them."

The democrats took the Arab vote for granted in Michigan and are suffering the consequences and instead of changing there policies or accept that there policies are alienating voters and move on they just blame stein and pretend she's pulling away potential Kamala voters from the camp, when in reality those people had already left the camp after being ignored and were just not going to vote for either.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

A Jill Stein event, in a speech by a Stein supporter introducing Stein.

Too bad, this is Green. They are not a party of progressives.

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