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[-] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

In many ways, the Clinton Administration is when Democrats started giving up the Overton Window to Republicans. The trend of "self-regulating industries" went into full swing with things like the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Not Reagan or the first Bush. Clinton.

FISA, the court that rubber stamps warrents for wire tapping, became a rubber stamping operation under Clinton. I'd have to dig it up, but there's actually an ancient freerepublic.org thread where they hope Bush undoes this. Instead, Bush ignored it completely while freerepublic.org cheered him on.

This is all to say that when Nader said both sides are the same, there were a lot of people on the left who agreed.

Bush then takes less then a year to show how utterly wrong that was, and it didn't even start with 9/11.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Tale as old as time.

Democrat makes moves to the center.

Leftists become disillusioned

Say both parties are the same

Republican gets elected

Leftists learn that what they though was "right wing" was only the tip of the iceberg

when put in power, actual Republicans do things far worse things than Leftists even imagined were possible

this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2024
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