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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

There's been a lot of FUD about it and .ml has been running wild denying anything even remotely pro peace from her.

At any rate literally all we need at this point is a president that tells Netanyahu he either accepts a negotiated return of remaining hostages and withdraws or he loses our weapons support.

But Biden is also doing his best to pump up their ammo supply so the next president actually doesn't have the influence Biden could have had. It's 2024 and I'm ashamed we didn't learn from supporting South Africa and Iran into the flames. They've been shamelessly giving Israel our best military technology with no regard to their political situation. College students called this as the most likely path 2 decades ago, and here we are appearing to be caught by surprise.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Fun fact, there's a 2008 law that specifically forces the president to give Israel all the best military hardware.

It was passed by W on his way out the door, and due to the Democratic party being compromised as hell, there's never been enough votes to get rid of it, and any time the president might want to hold things back, they get sued under that law.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 15 hours ago

Fun fact, there’s a 2008

What law is that? I keep hearing about it but I can't find that law.

I did find several that prohibit the US from providing aid to countries that commit human rights violations but nothing that requires the US to give anyone any military hardware.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

PDF warning but anyone wanting to peep the law - it's here.

https://www.congress.gov/112/statute/STATUTE-126/STATUTE-126-Pg1146.pdf

There's actually very explicit language that Congress wrote into the law basically ensuring the president, or the executive at large, has to support Israel militarily.

So there isn't really an easy way for a president to unilaterally untangle us from our military alliance with Israel even if they want to. It will take a literal act of Congress to change the course of the State Dept when it comes to Israel as a lot of what is wrong is prescribed by law as necessary.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

PDF warning but anyone wanting to peep the law - it's here.

https://www.congress.gov/112/statute/STATUTE-126/STATUTE-126-Pg1146.pdf

There's actually very explicit language that Congress wrote into the law basically ensuring the president, or the executive at large, has to support Israel militarily.

So there isn't really an easy way for a president to unilaterally untangle us from our military alliance with Israel even if they want to. It will take a literal act of Congress to change the course of the State Dept when it comes to Israel as a lot of what is wrong is prescribed by law as necessary.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Biden and Obama both could have used the leahy law on day one. We have evidence going that far back that Israel systematically commits war crimes, including occupying Palestine in an illegal manner. To be clear there is a way they could have done it legally. But things including extending their own, civilian, legal system into the occupied areas preclude it being legal.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It’s 2024 and I’m ashamed we didn’t learn from supporting South Africa and Iran into the flames.

We did learn. Just all the wrong lessons. Iran taught us that you can ride a wave of hate for 50 years. South Africa taught us that you crack down on the BDS movement day one and keep the media on lock for your Apartheid friends.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

What did South Africa do to BTS?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Boycott Divest Sanction

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I hate that you're right. I want to live in a country that's actually moral.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

Then you need to find a different planet.

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