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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

She can honestly be pro Israel but also hope the turds that are the Likud Party lose

I'm not invested in the Likud Party losing if the war continues to expand and drag on.

The issue isn't with her "pro-Israel" policy, it's with her "pro-Genocide" policy. That's what's driving the protests.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

it’s with her “pro-Genocide” policy

What pro-genocide policy? Name one Kamala Harris, pro-genocide policy.

Because it seems to me that she just stated that her goal is to end the genocide. Seems like a pretty counterintuitive way to be "pro-genocide"...

And if you knew anything about politics in Israel, then you would 100% be invested in the Likud Party losing.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 19 hours ago

Sending weapons to the army committing the genocide is a very clear endorsement of it. Judge politicians by their actions, not by their promises.

And not only was sending those weapons a clear endorsement of the genocide, it is illegal by US law. The whole administration and majority of congress should be under investigation and in jail.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

And who is the current President of the United States?

Is it Kamala Harris? No?

So my question stands: one "pro-genocide policy"

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago

Who is current vice-president?

Her entire campaign was based on the fact that she is the continuation of Biden. Having proper primaries after Biden dropped out was argued against, saying she is already on the ticket. Her team is largely Bidens team. Distancing her from the administration she currently serves in and saying she is the continuation of that doesn't work.

Frankly if she was opposed to genocide the only decent thing would have been to resign from her position in the current administration. You cannot be against genocide while serving a genocidal president.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 18 hours ago

Then stop serving Trump. You can't be against any of the things he stands for, including genocide, if you're trying to swing this election in his favor.

[-] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And that's the rub. Is she really 'pro genocide'? That is the question

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago

"Hey, i have murdered some 40.000 people, most women and children. Can you send me more weapons?"

"Well sure, here ya go. Need any more troops deployed with it, so no one in the region can try to stop you?"

More clear of an endorsement isn't possible aside from going there personally to murder the women and children herself.

[-] JonEFive@midwest.social 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

But the question remains, will things be better, worse, or the same under Trump?

Like it or not, at this stage of the game there are effectively two candidates. To paraphrase South Park, you can vote for the douche bag or the turd sandwich. Neither is a very good option but one is certainly worse than the other if you're paying any attention at all. Abstaining from voting for Harris in a swing state is tantamount to a half vote for Trump.

So sure, continue letting everyone know what the current administration is doing wrong. I'm all for valid criticism of our government. Post facts, link sources, and post ways that people can voice their displeasure to their elected officials.

Trying to sway votes away from Harris is not the answer. Because again, like it or not, the shitty choice that we've been handed in this scenario is bad or worse. Please stop advocating for worse.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 15 hours ago

Left-wing accelerationists will always vote for the worse result, because they're convinced the only route to the world they want requires burning society down. That Queer and PoC communities will be exterminated in the process is of no concern to them, because they don't actually care about real human outcomes, they just want their fantasy Communist society to emerge from the ashes of fascism's cremated victims.

They literally think that letting Fascism win and destroy society will open the door to a communist revolution. At best they are stupid, at worst they are malicious and explicitly want Fascism. Regardless, they are enemies of progress, friends to Fascists and Christian Nationalists, and have no problem throwing marginalized people to the wolves in a bid to accomplish nothing.

[-] JonEFive@midwest.social 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't even know how to respond to this. It's filled with so much hyperbole that there's nothing factual to refute or discuss. All I can say is that I vehemently disagree with your opinions on the matter.

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