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I agree with you in general but you should be blaming Harris. Have you even been keeping up with her campaign? I couldn't believe that shit and I'm not even American. She managed to squander a massive headstart by... Being Harris.
What does that even mean?
It means they understand sweet FA about American politics and wish to lecture us on American politics.
Harris's campaign sucked even in the eyes of me, a non-American who doesn't keep up with the nitty gritty of American politics. She had a massive headstart (remember the first while after her nomination? She was basically a messiah for democrats) and managed to lose it with her wishy washy attitude and right wing policies.
In another thread you were commenting how much you liked that Shitface won, and now you want people to convince that you don't care about US politics but hoped Harris would've been a better candidate, without ever saying anything specific?
I gave their profile a cursory look, but I couldn't find this in the few handfuls of posts I looked at. Do you have a link to a comment or two showing this, maybe I missed it?
It got deleted: https://fedia.io/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/1400043/Kamala-Harris-cancels-election-day-speech-as-Donald-Trump-inches/comment/8067777#entry-comment-8067777
Can you not put words in my mouth? I'm hoping for some sweet karma against Harris for messing up the Democrat campaign so hard and causing four more years of Trump.
Blaming Harris for that is just idiotic and I don't believe you arguing in good faith when you say this shit.
I mean believe whatever you want then I guess. If you can't believe that her promise to build a border wall didn't sit well with democrat voters, that's on you.
And what do you think Trump is going to do? Enjoy your concentration camps & fascism while the world freefalls into a climate collapse.
I literally never said anything that implies I'm happy about Trump's election why do you insist that I'm secretly a Trumper? Is it that hard to believe that someone can criticize Harris without being a Trump supporter?
Because it's a two party system there. You either get Trump, or you get Harris. So running around and arguing that potential Harris voters didn't vote for her because she (according to you) may does very lightweight variants of what Trump would do 500x times worse, is just bullshit. You don't like Harris supporting Israel, so you vote for Trump? What do you think Trump will do? The guy asked if they can't just nuke the entire middle east. So if you don't want Trump, you would've had to vote for Harris. Anything else would be in support of Trump. That's how it works in the US.
I mean yes, and enough people didn't know that or, more likely, just didn't care. Voters' default state is staying at home; they need to be pushed to go to the polls. Harris failed at that. Whatever the reasons may be, I still don't understand why you're blaming me for it. I'm not even American what do you expect me to do here?
Harris didn't fail at that. It's the voters / non voters fault.
No matter whose fault it was, it was Harris and her campaign managers' job to make sure this doesn't happen. Blaming the voters is about as productive as yelling about your controller being broken. Or will it sound better if it's Bernie saying it?
It's the voters responsibility to vote and to make an informed decision. Or to formulate it differently: You get what you vote for. And your analogy makes no sense either, unless you're saying voters are controlled little drones that can't do anything without user input.
Since I responded to your other claim earlier, here I'll just say this:
I never said I didn't care about US politics. I said I don't keep up with the nitty gritty, meaning the details of the policies being discussed. For example, I knew that Harris was adopting a right wing stance on immigration, but only today found out she had promised to build a border wall.
Like what?
Completely adopting the right-wing framing on immigration. Ended up running in favor of the most right-wing and damaging immigration bill. (She adopted it because Trump rejected the bill because he wanted to run on it.)
Signing on to continue Trump's stupid border wall.
Adopting a policy on Gaza that was as favorable to Israel as any official policy of the Republicans.
Not challenging state-level laws against trans people, largely taking a state's right position on the matter.
Seeking out and running on endorsements from Dick Cheney and other prominent Republicans.
Embracing fracking when fracking isn't even supported by a majority of Pennsylvanians.
Completely abandoning medicare for all, not even making the public option a major part of her campaign.