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[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

You're not a very good troll are you. It's well established that there are large numbers of corporate Democrats who will float social issues as important but tend to follow through very weakly.

You know, what happened to abortion? That's an issue that we knew was coming 30 years ago. We were discussing it in the '90s. We knew that the Republicans were trying to poison the Supreme Court, and the Democrats just went along with it, pretending they were helpless when they had enough power to stop it.

And I could bring up other issues where the progressive stance was just ignored by the majority of Washington Democrats. There are so many major issues. Wars, banks, unions, monopolies, etc. But I don't think you're interested. I think you'd rather just do a little bit of name calling. Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's happened before, happens all the time.

[-] Floon@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're thinking like one level deep, but the real issues are much more difficult.

Everything the GOP does makes them stronger, and everything the Democrats do makes them weaker. This is because exploiting things makes money, and defending things costs money. There's almost nothing the Democrats can do about any progressive issue that doesn't also create huge numbers of Republicans, so pleasing progressives is generally not the winning strategy you think it is.

I'm more interested in solving these problems than I could adequately explain, but you, like most progressives, think about goals and not strategies or ancillary outcomes.

this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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